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jamiemartin721  Reading 07 Jan 18 2.58pm |
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Originally posted by chelys
We should be concerned about all paedophile activity regardless of who the perpetrator is instead of highlighting selected events and diluting other selected events in pursuit of a political agenda. Exactly, because when we do the later, we end up protecting offenders. Sexual exploitation of children, for profit, or sexual gratification is unacceptable in any form. When we politicise it under an agenda, we end up focusing on only some offenders, much like Rochdale did by focusing its efforts exclusively away from grooming gangs in the first place.
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 Kermit8  Hevon 07 Jan 18 3.00pm |
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No, because that's what witnesses, investigative journalists and enquiry lines found. That because many of the victims came from council estates and poor backgrounds it meant authorities in Rochdale expressed little sympathy or interest in helping them. One of the victims went to the police in 2008 and despite her sharing details of her abusers and where the attacks took place, and there being DNA evidence of her abuse, the Crown Prosecution Service determined her to be 'an unreliable witness' and dropped the case. She was 14 and poor and from a dysfunctional background. It wouldn't have mattered who the attackers were - those girls would still have been ignored first time around because those they could have done something weren't that bothered.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jan 18 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Utter rubbish. The reason neither the police or social services did anything was because they did not want to offend the pakistani community. Fact. Bet you can't back that up with something evidence-based and substantial rather than just saying 'fact' and wanting to it to be true in the Rochdale case.
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| elgrande bedford 07 Jan 18 3.05pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Thats the story they're peddling. But its the only reasonable defence. Blame Political Correctness, blame fear of being called racist. But think about it, who would actually be worried about being branded a racist, if in doing so they were preventing kids being raped. And thats me, I'm not a social worker or police officer - just an ordinary bloke. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't worry too much about being labelled, compared to allowing children to be raped. Well surprisingly both the police and the local authorities,which has been admitted as such by members of both parties.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 07 Jan 18 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Bet you can't back that up with something evidence-based and substantial rather than just saying 'fact' and wanting to it to be true in the Rochdale case.
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| elgrande bedford 07 Jan 18 3.09pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
So we will pretend I didn't make that post about lone paedophiles being white and go back to Muslim bashing. Where's your criticism of the authorities in allowing so many white men to commit acts of paedophilia? So what point are you trying to make Ffs,he was found with disgusting material and rightly jailed. If you are saying why didn't the residents of Boston hand him over to the police,I'm sure they would have.....it's just sniping at the points being made by others.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jan 18 3.17pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Rotherham is not Rochdale.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 07 Jan 18 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
No, because that's what witnesses, investigative journalists and enquiry lines found. That because many of the victims came from council estates and poor backgrounds it meant authorities in Rochdale expressed little sympathy or interest in helping them. One of the victims went to the police in 2008 and despite her sharing details of her abusers and where the attacks took place, and there being DNA evidence of her abuse, the Crown Prosecution Service determined her to be 'an unreliable witness' and dropped the case. She was 14 and poor and from a dysfunctional background. It wouldn't have mattered who the attackers were - those girls would still have been ignored first time around because those they could have done something weren't that bothered. Why would I believe their findings in a country where those in authority bend over backwards to promote multi culture? No one can be trusted to tell the truth anymore.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jan 18 3.32pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Why would I believe their findings in a country where those in authority bend over backwards to promote multi culture? No one can be trusted to tell the truth anymore. We have seen many abuse stories recently going back many decades with regard to local authority, police and powers that be lack of concern being a common recurring theme and the social deprivation/helplessness of many of the the victims being another linked one. Nothing to do with multi-culturalism those ones more establishment malaise/corruption and lack of ethics as was the case with Rochdale. The others towns could well be solely an inexcusable racial sensitivity factor with regard to the police doing nothing but would need to see some evidence before agreeing. Edited by Kermit8 (07 Jan 2018 3.33pm)
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| chelys London 07 Jan 18 3.46pm |
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Some members of the grooming gangs freely admitted that their attitude to the children they abused was based on race. They therefore should have been charged with racially aggravated rape and assault and the sentences should have reflected that.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jan 18 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by chelys
Some members of the grooming gangs freely admitted that their attitude to the children they abused was based on race. They therefore should have been charged with racially aggravated rape and assault and the sentences should have reflected that. One of the traits of grooming gangs is to not abuse any of their own. Whether it be gangs of travellers or Asians.
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| elgrande bedford 07 Jan 18 4.15pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
One of the traits of grooming gangs is to not abuse any of their own. Whether it be gangs of travellers or Asians. Really,because according to you there are massive gangs of BNP grooming gangs out there,do you think they only target Asian girls,or Afro/ Carribbean.
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