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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Dec 17 8.18pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Go on.

Obfuscation. That is a lefty tactic to avoid all annoying realities.
Argue about details, whataboutery, veiled accusations, ridiculous comparisons. That is all we get.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Dec 17 8.29pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


Plenty want to have a pop at Muslims who don't cause issues. Hate crime is rising. All because of ignorance.

So you logic on this is that most Muslims don't blow people up and have varying attitudes to their religion so that means that all things Muslim are good and should not be criticised at all and any bad things Muslims do should be hushed up just in case some 'ignorant' people view other Muslims with suspicion as a result.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 06 Dec 17 8.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you logic on this is that most Muslims don't blow people up and have varying attitudes to their religion so that means that all things Muslim are good and should not be criticised at all and any bad things Muslims do should be hushed up just in case some 'ignorant' people view other Muslims with suspicion as a result.


Kind of interesting here to see governmental policy given such a seal of approval.

Not that Corbyn is any better. If he could pay reparations just for being English I'm sure he would.


Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2017 8.36pm)

 


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crystal balls Flag The Garden of Earthly Delights 06 Dec 17 8.42pm Send a Private Message to crystal balls Add crystal balls as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I find it amusing that people are arguing over things like ethnicity, and religion, when the real scandal here is how 6500 reported rapes can end up with 200 convictions.

That's a real f**king issue.

I'm glad you noticed this; it would seem that the conviction rate for rape in Sweden is appallingly low in relation to reported figures, and this has led some people who wish to score anti-immigrant points to conflate the relatively high "reported" rape figures with greater immigrant numbers.
However; Sweden introduced a much different way of collating rape numbers in recent years; e.g. if a husband rapes his wife every day for a year which she then reports him, it is recorded as 365 rapes, rather than as one rape as in many other countries, including the UK. Sweden also classifies other sex crimes as rape, whereas countries like the UK classify these as "sexual assault". Clearly semantics.
Sweden has also attempted to make it much easier for people to report sex attacks than many other countries (correctly so), but not as many result in convictions proportionally.
The salient point is that Sweden is NOT the rape capital of Europe, greater immigrant numbers have NOT lead to a greater number of rapes proportionally and writers such as the chap the OP suggest is some sort of an authority on this topic have miss-represented stats in support of a flawed argument.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 Dec 17 8.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Obfuscation. That is a lefty tactic to avoid all annoying realities.
Argue about details, whataboutery, veiled accusations, ridiculous comparisons. That is all we get.

Really. That's complete t***tery to think that.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 Dec 17 9.00pm

Originally posted by crystal balls

I'm glad you noticed this; it would seem that the conviction rate for rape in Sweden is appallingly low in relation to reported figures, and this has led some people who wish to score anti-immigrant points to conflate the relatively high "reported" rape figures with greater immigrant numbers.
However; Sweden introduced a much different way of collating rape numbers in recent years; e.g. if a husband rapes his wife every day for a year which she then reports him, it is recorded as 365 rapes, rather than as one rape as in many other countries, including the UK. Sweden also classifies other sex crimes as rape, whereas countries like the UK classify these as "sexual assault". Clearly semantics.
Sweden has also attempted to make it much easier for people to report sex attacks than many other countries (correctly so), but not as many result in convictions proportionally.
The salient point is that Sweden is NOT the rape capital of Europe, greater immigrant numbers have NOT lead to a greater number of rapes proportionally and writers such as the chap the OP suggest is some sort of an authority on this topic have miss-represented stats in support of a flawed argument.

So that's 2 things that are complete bollox from the original post.

Am I also right in thinking that some would say we are being invaded by Muslims.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Dec 17 9.02pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Really. That's complete t***tery to think that.

I'd say it was entirely accurate.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

So that's 2 things that are complete bollox from the original post.

Am I also right in thinking that some would say we are being invaded by Muslims.

There are over three million Muslims in Britain. How many were here in 1960? How many will be here by 2050?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 Dec 17 9.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There are over three million Muslims in Britain. How many were here in 1960? How many will be here by 2050?

I think you'll find they are settlers rather than invaders.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

I think you'll find they are settlers rather than invaders.

That's just semantics.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Dec 17 10.42am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There are over three million Muslims in Britain. How many were here in 1960? How many will be here by 2050?

And how many are terrorists and child rapists - When you figure in the generations that have lived here.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Dec 17 10.51am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you logic on this is that most Muslims don't blow people up and have varying attitudes to their religion so that means that all things Muslim are good and should not be criticised at all and any bad things Muslims do should be hushed up just in case some 'ignorant' people view other Muslims with suspicion as a result.

I think you miss the point, deliberately or otherwise, which is that it is unfair, undemocratic and unjust to blame all Muslims and Islam, for the failings of some people - especially when we don't use the same focus on ethnicity or religion, for similar offences.

Those who commit these acts are scum of the highest order - Tarring normal law abiding citizens by association is brutally unfair.

 


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