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The Dolphin Flag 25 Oct 17 7.07am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

We can't change history sadly.
Pardew stayed too long and whilst there did untold damage in many ways - buying some real dross on good money and long contracts, breaking up the old squad way too quickly and much more.
SP allowed it to happen and that 22 month period - which had its highs one must add - is mainly why we are where we are now.
No striker right now must give the opposition deep joy when they see our team sheet - this is also unforgiveable at Prem level.
Shame one of our seven - yes seven - centre backs can't play up front - another huge error.
Not ditching dross in the Summer regardless of the cost to us was silly as well - if we had underwritten his move Mutch would be elsewhere now and he is just one example.
Roy Hodgson was never the answer either - and no - I can't think who might have been - I just know it wasn't/isn't him but I so hope he proves me wrong!
What a mess and no need to be in it - you just couldn't make it up and even a win on Saturday will only paper over the cracks.
The Club is in trouble from top to bottom right now and if SP and Roy can sort this out then they are Supermen!

 

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orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 25 Oct 17 8.11am Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

We have simply been found out.

Our luck has finally run out and for all of those who rattle out that as Mr Parish and his gang saved the club, they have equally proved they can't run it.

We have had manager after manager come and go so our squad is now a hotch potch of players accumulated under different regimes. No consistency as can be seen elsewhere. We have failed to buy players when we needed to possibly as we seem keen to do all of our business in the last hour of deadline day, we haven't invested in the ground despite selling our souls to American investors.

As we have shown managers come and go, week players. We are constantly fire fighting at a time when we should be an established Premier League club.

The only constant here is the owners and it is p9r decision making at that level that's to shoulder some blame here.

 

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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 25 Oct 17 1.03pm Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

A lot of usual moaning, but no viable alternative suggestion by you at all as to who you have lined up to take over at the top.

Explain to me why I should come up with an aternative chairman, how the fcuk dhoukd I know ? I don't move in those circles, im guessing you don't either.

The facts are oyr current chairman has proved himself to be incompatent in the transger market, and all the promise of ground improvements have amounted to a lick of paint and some fancy lights. We are going to get relagated and ultimately the blame lays at his door.

 


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Den1923 Flag 25 Oct 17 1.34pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

The only person that can sack off Parish, is Parish. That’s why I hope he soon realizes that is exactly what this football club needs, and sooner rather than later.

The collective board can sack him as he is paid a salary and therefore technically an employee as can the majority shareholders, he is far too vain to sack himself and yet if he really care about this club that is what he should do!

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Oct 17 1.52pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

The collective board can sack him as he is paid a salary and therefore technically an employee as can the majority shareholders, he is far too vain to sack himself and yet if he really care about this club that is what he should do!

I raised this issue some time ago...as CEO he is being paid £650pa, if he was subject to usual employee performance measurement, would he still be in a job ??

 


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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 25 Oct 17 2.04pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

The collective board can sack him as he is paid a salary and therefore technically an employee as can the majority shareholders, he is far too vain to sack himself and yet if he really care about this club that is what he should do!

Vanity is not sticking your neck out when things are going bad, because you're too scared to take the punches to your ego.

Parish might be vain in the Saville Row suit, gelled up quiff and Ferrari sense, but at least he has come out time after time after we've lost or he's got a decision wrong, given his side of the case and taken the criticisms levelled at him.

How many of us have heard one f*cking word one of the Americans has said, ever? They own more of the club than Parish, yet when questions need to be asked they're cheering on a f***ing NFL team.

Parish has made mistakes of course. For me, not getting a top sporting director in, not subsidising ticket prices since we've been in the Prem, not investing adequately in the academy, are all major mistakes. But he has also taken our club from a state where we were on our f*cking knees, and given us one of our most successful ever periods, with arguably the best, most exciting squad in our history, a club teams wish to replicate and a sense of pride which means even now where we're 'struggling' I'm not ashamed to say I'm CPFC.

If he cashes in now, he'll have earnt every single penny of the millions he'd make. But we would be stuck with two more faceless foreign investors, probably with no understanding of the game, the community or how best to run a football club. It actually frightens me that some people are that short sighted that they think getting rid of him would solve anything. What do you actually want our club to be, a footnote in some billionaire's commodity portfolio or a proper football club that plays for its people?

 


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Den1923 Flag 25 Oct 17 8.39pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

Vanity is not sticking your neck out when things are going bad, because you're too scared to take the punches to your ego.

Parish might be vain in the Saville Row suit, gelled up quiff and Ferrari sense, but at least he has come out time after time after we've lost or he's got a decision wrong, given his side of the case and taken the criticisms levelled at him.

How many of us have heard one f*cking word one of the Americans has said, ever? They own more of the club than Parish, yet when questions need to be asked they're cheering on a f***ing NFL team.

Parish has made mistakes of course. For me, not getting a top sporting director in, not subsidising ticket prices since we've been in the Prem, not investing adequately in the academy, are all major mistakes. But he has also taken our club from a state where we were on our f*cking knees, and given us one of our most successful ever periods, with arguably the best, most exciting squad in our history, a club teams wish to replicate and a sense of pride which means even now where we're 'struggling' I'm not ashamed to say I'm CPFC.

If he cashes in now, he'll have earnt every single penny of the millions he'd make. But we would be stuck with two more faceless foreign investors, probably with no understanding of the game, the community or how best to run a football club. It actually frightens me that some people are that short sighted that they think getting rid of him would solve anything. What do you actually want our club to be, a footnote in some billionaire's commodity portfolio or a proper football club that plays for its people?

I'm sorry, but i guess we have to disagree, what Parish has done in the past which is nearly seven years ago was great but since we have been in PL he has learnt nothing, he still dithers over important decisions, lets everything go down to the wire has overseen 8 managers in five seasons, has given us just 27 home PL wins out of 80 games played, has allowed us to go in to this season with one striker when he knew CW was never going to be fit until at least 2018, then there is thelack of team strengthening in the last transfer window when it was obvious from the back end of last season unless we invested in better players then we were always going to struggle with the squad we currently have. then there is the more than our fair share of players transfers that he has approved who have questionable medical histories (Sako/Tomkins as examples). The American investors where also his doing, he brokered the deal, so if they are not right then that is also down to him. He then appoints Freedman as Sports Director, when he has no experience of such a position, need I go on, clearly he has lost the plot and any good he done in the past is just that, it is the future that counts and right now he is overseeing our biggest loss in revenue in our history if we are relegated!

 

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Den1923 Flag 25 Oct 17 8.48pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I raised this issue some time ago...as CEO he is being paid £650pa, if he was subject to usual employee performance measurement, would he still be in a job ??

Clearly you are right, he should have and would have been fired a long time ago, sadly that has not happened yet, by the way think his pay cheque is £695K/pa!

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 25 Oct 17 10.07pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

Parish has made mistakes of course. For me, not getting a top sporting director in, not subsidising ticket prices since we've been in the Prem, not investing adequately in the academy, are all major mistakes. But he has also taken our club from a state where we were on our f*cking knees, and given us one of our most successful ever periods, with arguably the best, most exciting squad in our history, a club teams wish to replicate and a sense of pride which means even now where we're 'struggling' I'm not ashamed to say I'm CPFC.

Teams want to replicate our club? Really? After the last 2 years of errors and in particular this summer? Last I heard Parish wants us to be the next Southampton, and some of us, me included, thought we should and could be like West Brom or Stoke. (Some thought Fulham but they were a Harrods toy)

 


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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 25 Oct 17 10.34pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Well hopefully the academy will start to deliver.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 25 Oct 17 10.39pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Well hopefully the academy will start to deliver.

That will be in the championship if they do.

 


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Den1923 Flag 26 Oct 17 10.00am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Well hopefully the academy will start to deliver.

that will take several years and we do not have the luxury of time or points in the bag on our side!

 

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