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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Sep 17 1.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I think AI automation will have a far larger impact upon capitalism within this and the next generation than anything else.

Possible atomic alchemy of the future is interesting....Maybe I could use it to finally realise my 'weird science' dream....mind you Kelly LeBrock isn't quite the same anymore.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Sep 17 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Well if you have technology that can efficiently manipulate atomic structure, being a millionaire or a billionaire would be irrelevant - nothing would really have any value to secure money against. If you can manipulate protons, neutrons and electrons, you could effectively turn anything into anything else.

Capitalism is based in the production of an excess of goods, that can be sold or exchanged, for other goods and that demand against your supply drives the value of that excess product. If you can mass produce gold from literal excrement, what would you base an economy of exchange on.

Capitalism might remain as some kind of social game - but it wouldn't be a major factor in society.

I'm not sure the powers that be would allow people to conjure up anything they fancy. There will be laws controlling technology and I'm sure that those in the ruling class will wish to remain so.
We could all be comfortable now with a better division of wealth. The fact that we aren't is no accident.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 25 Sep 17 2.17pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm not sure the powers that be would allow people to conjure up anything they fancy. There will be laws controlling technology and I'm sure that those in the ruling class will wish to remain so.
We could all be comfortable now with a better division of wealth. The fact that we aren't is no accident.

Thing is, over time, technology tends to change the powers that be. Same as the industrial revolution changed society from agricultural to urbanised, the likelihood is that such a technology would eventually over time become common place, and where resistance is encountered it tends to create movements for change - as seen in industrialisation with Unionisation etc. Where societies don't change willingly, you tend to get militancy and revolution.

The great age of liberalism stemmed from not so much a desire to do the right thing, but from the fear of the consequences of not doing so (and massively accelerated following the French and Russian Revolutions).

The 'powers that be' only have so much control. After the industrial revolution these powers shifted from landowners to factory owners and merchant classes - the great middle class revolution. Strange as it may seem to us now, but the emergent middle class was a revolutionary in its own right.

With the arrival of such technologies, societies that refuse to change will likely be subject to revolutionary movements of the people, typically led by disenfranchised middle classes and occasional members of the upper classes.

Most revolutionary leaders tend to come from the middle and lower upper classes.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 25 Sep 17 2.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think AI automation will have a far larger impact upon capitalism within this and the next generation than anything else.

Possible atomic alchemy of the future is interesting....Maybe I could use it to finally realise my 'weird science' dream....mind you Kelly LeBrock isn't quite the same anymore.

Being a fan of Iain M Banks culture novels, I dream of the day when we have AI to advise and plan society and post-scarcity technology.

First thing that's vital when establishing AI is to grant them the same rights as humans.

 


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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 25 Sep 17 2.27pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What? So you are comparing Milo to an actual pedophile? He put together some words he's apologized for....and now he's a pedophile?

As for the Catholics....I like how you are willing to smear the entire church over pedophilia.....Yet I imagine you'd never do this with other religions.

You were excusing Milo speaking in favour of paedophilia by saying that he does good things for kids. I was simply highlighting that absurdity with a bit of hyperbole.

As for churches, I think all churches are as fallible and full of s*** as mankind, because they are constructs of mankind. The best of them preach love and tolerance while doing thoroughly good deeds; the worst of them incite their followers to murder and cover up all manner of sins.

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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Sep 17 2.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Being a fan of Iain M Banks culture novels, I dream of the day when we have AI to advise and plan society and post-scarcity technology.

First thing that's vital when establishing AI is to grant them the same rights as humans.

Sentient AI would be frigging something else....a bit scary....First dibs on Rachel from Blade runner!

She can smoke my fag anytime.

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 25 Sep 17 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

You know the Left have lost the argument when they get personal.


How on earth was that "personal"?

You know the right has lost an argument when they invent an argument they think they can beat and attribute it to the opposition.

 


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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 25 Sep 17 2.32pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by crystal balls

I don't know much about this guy, but I can only assume he's another attention seeking non-entity that seems to be taken seriously by pro-Trump websites in America.To everyone else he doesn't exist. Don't waste your attention on him.

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Milo is young and gay, so the right glom onto him as proof that they're not all crusty old white men telling kids to get off their lawns.

 


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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 25 Sep 17 2.33pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Initial impressions:

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My initial impression is that I needed sunglasses to look at that clip.

So. Much. White.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Sep 17 2.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

You were excusing Milo speaking in favour of paedophilia by saying that he does good things for kids. I was simply highlighting that absurdity with a bit of hypoerbole.

As for churches, I think all churches are as fallible and full of s*** as mankind, because they are constructs of mankind. The best of them preach love and tolerance while doing thoroughly good deeds; the worst of incite their followers to murder and cover up all manner of sins.


This guy says something a bit foolish about pederasty, which is an unfortunate reality and which he was apart of and it gets turned around into 'Milo supports sex with 13 year olds'.

I'm not 'excusing' anything. I don't agree with the concept of pederasty as acceptable at all. That's got nothing to do with my objection. I originally reacted against an unfair statement and of course....I get the hysteria of hyperbolic reactions.

You ignored his statement about this issue..I posted the link to it several times.

You ignored the fact or didn't bother looking that in the very same interview he says he agrees with the age of consent.

As for you smearing the catholic church. Once again, I suggest that you wouldn't have said this against other religions.

The reality that all personal religions are control systems is a different point.


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 25 Sep 17 2.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Possible atomic alchemy of the future is interesting....Maybe I could use it to finally realise my 'weird science' dream....mind you Kelly LeBrock isn't quite the same anymore.

Still would.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Sep 17 2.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


This guy says something a bit foolish about pederasty, which is an unfortunate reality and which he was apart of and it gets turned around into 'Milo supports sex with 13 year olds'.

I'm not 'excusing' anything. I don't agree with the concept of pederasty as acceptable at all. That's got nothing to do with my objection. I originally reacted against an unfair statement and of course....I get the hysteria of hyperbolic reactions.

You totally ignore his statement about this issue...I posted the link to it several times. This proves that you only believe what you want to believe and hence aren't a fair commentator on the matter.

You totally ignore the fact that in the very same interview he says he agrees with the age of consent.

As for you smearing the catholic church. Once again, I suggest that you wouldn't have said this against other religions.

The reality that all personal religions are control systems is a different point.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2017 2.46pm)

Let's recap. You love Milo who basically said older men on young teens gay encounters are ok, you said the the edl mission statement has nothing wrong with it and espouse eugenics. Have I missed anything?

 

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