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Carrick In the Premierleague 13 May 17 8.51am | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Most managers seem to have left on bad terms. The recent exceptions being Paul Hart (a stop-gap appointment) and Ian Holloway (who resigned on realising the job was too big for him) Recent Managers who left a bad taste, include : George Burley, Neil Warnock, Dougie, Dowie...even Peter Taylor Bruce did the dirty, but we all chase the wonga Mullery was hated before he was even appointed, and it went downhill from there But top of the pile is Venables. He nearly destroyed our club by lining his own pockets. "Thief, thief, thief"
Not sure if warnock left on bad terms? Taylor for me
Disclaimer The contains of the this message may not be the sober views of the originator. Often the orginator is overloaded with alcohol therefore waffle often gets posted to which the orginator has no responsibility.
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Midlands Eagle 13 May 17 8.58am | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Some of the criticism seem pretty harsh. Going back in time over the managers mentioned. Pardew - limited ability manager for the premiership. Took over when no one else would touch us. Saved us from religation, got us to two cup finals. In time we might forgive him. That's not how I remember it as I seem to recall that quite a few potential managers were linked with the job at the time but Steve Parish was so desperate for someone with Palace connections that he allegedly paid £3m to Newcastle to release him from his existing contract
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Dancer Cat Farnborough 13 May 17 9.05am | |
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This thread proves an interesting insight into the demographic on here. I'm 45 but (just) don't remember the Mullery years - I remember with clarity Coppell onwards. From what history I know (& having seen him countless times on Sky before they improved recruitment) I understand Mullery has to be the automatic pick from those older. However - for me personally - it has to be Pulis, for a bloke to be that good (& he was) & show (whilst he was still our manager) absolutely no love or affinity for us as club I found disgusting at the time....& then he lied. For the record, personally: Burley's the worst I've seen (closely following by the dire triumvirate of Francis, Taylor & Holloway) Freedman & Pardew are the biggest disappointments - could have been so much more here at Palace if greed & ego respectively hadn't intervened. I would also like to vent my ire at the people on here who've mentioned: Warnock - I hated the bloke before he came 1st time & felt sick when he was appointed BUT he proved that he could buy into the club culture & do very well in trying circumstances (if he'd had half the money Taylor / Francis wasted we'd have got promoted no probs - as it was we were a Ben Watson missed penno away from a play off final under Warnock). You can't judge him on 2nd stint, he came in - a last minute "I've got no-one else to turn to" hail mary following the cnut Pulis. He left us in a league position no worse than Pardew did & wh he did go he accepted he was out of his depth. Since the 1st stint he's always been really pro-Palace in the media, that goes a long way with me. (again - unlikel the cnut Pulis) Hart - Throughly nice guy, came in under "circumstances Breda", kept us up, good day at Hillsboro'. Can be argued he helped DF's managerial development..... HTF can he be mentioned on this thread ?? Wrong!!
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Midlands Eagle 13 May 17 9.12am | |
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Originally posted by Dancer Cat
Freedman left for what he thought was a better job at a higher pay grade. Why is that "greed" when it's something that probably almost all of us have done at some stage in our lives.
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Dancer Cat Farnborough 13 May 17 9.34am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Freedman left for what he thought was a better job at a higher pay grade. Why is that "greed" when it's something that probably almost all of us have done at some stage in our lives. DF faced a choice - earn more money, or continue his development with a team which was top of the table, a team which held him close to it's heart & which had allowed him to endure a "Pardew-esqe" losing run only 16 games before (which like Pardew would have got him sacked elsewhere much much sooner). He chose to earn money. I'm not being judge or jury on his decision - but as a Plaace fan if I choose to label the choice of the former option emotionally as "greed"(as opposed to "sense"then I will. Just like I could emotionally class the second choice as "loyality" as opposed to "stupidity" - depends on the viewpoint.
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Dan1994 Wallington 13 May 17 1.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Dancer Cat
Warnock - I hated the bloke before he came 1st time & felt sick when he was appointed BUT he proved that he could buy into the club culture & do very well in trying circumstances (if he'd had half the money Taylor / Francis wasted we'd have got promoted no probs - as it was we were a Ben Watson missed penno away from a play off final under Warnock). You can't judge him on 2nd stint, he came in - a last minute "I've got no-one else to turn to" hail mary following the cnut Pulis. He left us in a league position no worse than Pardew did & wh he did go he accepted he was out of his depth. Since the 1st stint he's always been really pro-Palace in the media, that goes a long way with me. (again - unlikel the cnut Pulis) This. I like Warnock. May come across as a bellend, but he's done nothing but be positive for Palace. First time round he did well and brought some of the youth through. Second time we all knew it was only an appointment that'd last weeks to couple months and he knew that and accepted it.
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aashman12 14 May 17 8.25am | |
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Originally posted by jimruss
1) Pardew - Obvious reasons really, we're still recovering from the damage he done and may still pay the price 2) Taylor - Turgid, boring football. Never been so bored watching Palace play Hated for Taylor is harsh. Was s*** but you can't hate him.You
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aashman12 14 May 17 8.26am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The correct answer is, of course, Mullery for those of a certain age. And Pardew haters make me laugh. You get your cues from what the Geordies said about him way back. Sheep the lot of you. Rescued us from relegation, second highest top league finish in 110 years and an FA Cup final to boot. In two years. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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aashman12 14 May 17 8.30am | |
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Originally posted by Mad4palace
I never warmed to Holloway, quickly realised that he was a pretty clueless manager. I thank him for getting us through the playoffs but our form under him was awful, every players form dropped away under him and was a terrible operator in the transfer market; the exception being signing Kevin Phillips. I was more sick of listening to him by the end than any other manager. thank you. I've said this many times to a load of abuse. Some can really put the blinkers on when it comes to palace
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The Dolphin 14 May 17 8.32am | |
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Originally posted by Dancer Cat
This thread proves an interesting insight into the demographic on here. I'm 45 but (just) don't remember the Mullery years - I remember with clarity Coppell onwards. From what history I know (& having seen him countless times on Sky before they improved recruitment) I understand Mullery has to be the automatic pick from those older. However - for me personally - it has to be Pulis, for a bloke to be that good (& he was) & show (whilst he was still our manager) absolutely no love or affinity for us as club I found disgusting at the time....& then he lied. For the record, personally: Burley's the worst I've seen (closely following by the dire triumvirate of Francis, Taylor & Holloway) Freedman & Pardew are the biggest disappointments - could have been so much more here at Palace if greed & ego respectively hadn't intervened. I would also like to vent my ire at the people on here who've mentioned: Warnock - I hated the bloke before he came 1st time & felt sick when he was appointed BUT he proved that he could buy into the club culture & do very well in trying circumstances (if he'd had half the money Taylor / Francis wasted we'd have got promoted no probs - as it was we were a Ben Watson missed penno away from a play off final under Warnock). You can't judge him on 2nd stint, he came in - a last minute "I've got no-one else to turn to" hail mary following the cnut Pulis. He left us in a league position no worse than Pardew did & wh he did go he accepted he was out of his depth. Since the 1st stint he's always been really pro-Palace in the media, that goes a long way with me. (again - unlikel the cnut Pulis) Hart - Throughly nice guy, came in under "circumstances Breda", kept us up, good day at Hillsboro'. Can be argued he helped DF's managerial development..... HTF can he be mentioned on this thread ?? Wrong!! Top post!
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aashman12 14 May 17 8.39am | |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Since I became a Palace fan as a kid, Bassett and Smith's stints are the ones most hazy in my memory I think. When I think of Dave Bassett my only image is of the Holmesdale work being completed (I think it was around the same time) and I think I spent more time gawping over at the Holmesdale from the AW than watching any actual football. We were flying under bassett.
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aashman12 14 May 17 8.45am | |
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Originally posted by kenbarr
Trevor Francis. He let Gregg Berhalter go on a free after the 2002 World Cup without any cover at CB simply because he hated Americans. I'm not saying Berhalter was the greatest CB Palace ever had, far from it, but he was a warm body when we had very few in the back. Terry Venables. I'd hire him to be head coach but never let him anywhere near the club's bank account so never let him be manager. England was a perfect place for him. I can't really blame Bruce for what he did as I was told things by the late Chief Steward Ron Greatorex about financial shenanigans Dominic Jordan did to him. I am not a Pardew hater but he did lose his way and had to be let go. You knew Ron? What lovely bloke. He was my nans cousin
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