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cornwalls palace Flag Torpoint 30 Jul 15 11.29pm

Quote MPE at 30 Jul 2015 8.41pm

Quote Andy_G at 30 Jul 2015 8.39pm

Quote Seth at 30 Jul 2015 7.47pm

Kept it quiet didn't they?! Just shows it's possible to keep transfer targets out of the media. Maybe Remy was just a smokescreen?

Either way I think this is a good signing. Remember Wickham was playing in a consistently sh*t Sunderland side, and kept them up almost single-handed a couple of seasons ago.

I hope we keep Murray and let Wickham and Bamford learn from him. His experience will be invaluable to a young, hungry striker and with the forwards we now have I'm confident we'll score lots of goals this season.

Get a decent CB partner for Dann and we've had a very good window indeed


Agree with what your saying but has Murray got the experience? Only played half a season in the Prem and 2 1/2 in the championship so it's not massive experience, Wickham has more. But I get what your on about.


Murray's experience is more his whole football career.


..exactly.

 


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sydtheeagle Flag England 30 Jul 15 11.38pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Quote cornwalls palace at 30 Jul 2015 11.29pm

Murray's experience is more his whole football career.

..exactly.

We're talking two different kinds of experience here. Murray has "football" experience, which is to say experience across the game that's given him a "football brain." Regardless of the level at which he's picked up that experience, he's attuned to the nuances of defenders and instinctively knows how to use his attributes to the best effect. Thus, even though is not a physical specimen, he's hugely influential on the pitch. He's what used to be called a "player's player."

Wickham, on the other hand, has far more high level "match experience" than Murray but that doesn't substitute for craft. He has the raw talent to be a much better player than Murray, but right now his football brain isn't even close to being as developed. If the pair can work in tandem; if over the next two seasons Murray can mentor Wickham, then we may get the best of both worlds. For now and for me personally, there is absolutely no way I would sell Murray not least because he is more valuable to us than any fee he would command on the transfer market.

 


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thebob Flag Tatebayashi (from Croydon) 30 Jul 15 11.39pm Send a Private Message to thebob Add thebob as a friend

At 6M+ he's a steal. A young hungry striker who just needs to be played in the right position and get some service.

I think we are looking sorted at the front... just one more big signing to go at the back.

It's a bit scary. I've never felt this confident before in the pre-season.

Dare I dream that we will be consistently mixing it with the top teams in the Prem. A fashionable club with aspirations for a cup run?

COYP.

 

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coulsdoneagle Flag London 30 Jul 15 11.41pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Quote sydtheeagle at 30 Jul 2015 11.38pm

Quote cornwalls palace at 30 Jul 2015 11.29pm

Murray's experience is more his whole football career.

..exactly.

We're talking two different kinds of experience here. Murray has "football" experience, which is to say experience across the game that's given him a "football brain." Regardless of the level at which he's picked up that experience, he's attuned to the nuances of defenders and instinctively knows how to use his attributes to the best effect. Thus, even though is not a physical specimen, he's hugely influential on the pitch. He's what used to be called a "player's player."

Wickham, on the other hand, has far more high level "match experience" than Murray but that doesn't substitute for craft. He has the raw talent to be a much better player than Murray, but right now his football brain isn't even close to being as developed. If the pair can work in tandem; if over the next two seasons Murray can mentor Wickham, then we may get the best of both worlds. For now and for me personally, there is absolutely no way I would sell Murray not least because he is more valuable to us than any fee he would command on the transfer market.


Have to agree with you here syd, the fact is every person in football uses this one word to describe Murray, intelligent. Its his movement that lets him buy those little free kicks and relieve pressure on the team as well as winning headers against far more physical players, if his brain was in someone like Wickham we would have a world class player.

Edited by coulsdoneagle (30 Jul 2015 11.42pm)

 

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cornwalls palace Flag Torpoint 30 Jul 15 11.42pm

Quote Pierre at 30 Jul 2015 11.18pm

What a great bit of business-No one saw it coming until its done! Snatched a young Premiership striker probably partly due to our exciting attacking lineup.
I think he will thrive at Palace and his stock will only rise.
I bet he is dreaming of all those crosses already!

Congratulations to the board & AP for this one.


.. Sunderland have failed miserably to use him properly, subsequently they feel he is worth replacing, fools they be

 


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coulsdoneagle Flag London 30 Jul 15 11.43pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Also anyone know why quoting has stoped working for me tonight, on every thread I can't seem to get quotes to work properly.

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Jul 15 11.47pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Quote coulsdoneagle at 30 Jul 2015 11.43pm

Also anyone know why quoting has stoped working for me tonight, on every thread I can't seem to get quotes to work properly.


It's not working for me either

 


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Red-Blue-Yellow Flag Surrey 30 Jul 15 11.49pm Send a Private Message to Red-Blue-Yellow Add Red-Blue-Yellow as a friend

Quote coulsdoneagle at 30 Jul 2015 11.43pm

Also anyone know why quoting has stoped working for me tonight, on every thread I can't seem to get quotes to work properly.


Obviously because you're a bad person.......

 


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cornwalls palace Flag Torpoint 30 Jul 15 11.50pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 30 Jul 2015 11.16pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 30 Jul 2015 11.11pm

Couldn't agree more, Syd. Don't know about you but I do find it a little hard to get used to, though.


I honestly don't think I'll ever get used to it. I probably see myself in a little bit the same way as I see Palace. But that said, I'm enjoying it. For a team that didn't win the World Cup in 1966, we're getting a lot of attention as the most attractive club in London outside the Big Two.


..and even more so off the pitch!

 


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Quote NEILLO at 30 Jul 2015 11.47pm

Quote coulsdoneagle at 30 Jul 2015 11.43pm

Also anyone know why quoting has stoped working for me tonight, on every thread I can't seem to get quotes to work properly.


It's not working for me either


Damn! Wish I'd said that.

 


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Quote The Dolphin at 30 Jul 2015 8.52pm

Wikipedia - goals are in brackets - not good stats at all!

2009–2011
1. Ipswich Town 65 (13)
2011–
2. Sunderland 74 (11)
2013–2014
&#8594; 3. Sheffield Wednesday (loan) 17 (9)
2014
&#8594; 4. Leeds United (loan) 5 (0

1. Sh*t
2. Sh*t
3. Sh*t
4. Sh*t

Quote oldstand at 30 Jul 2015 11.26pm

Far superior midfield to help him out now.Quality buy.

It's like my grand-pappie always used to say; "the crops depend on the dirt you throw your best seeds into"

Quote sydtheeagle at 30 Jul 2015 10.15pm

If Remy was Plan A and we weren't going to get him, this is better than any of the other Plan B's I've heard mentioned.

It's like my grand-pappie always used to say; "if you can't cut your sandwiches length-ways, cut them diagonally, you still get to eat sandwiches"

 

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suicideatselhurst Flag crawley 31 Jul 15 12.48am

Quote Indefatigable at 31 Jul 2015 12.44am

Quote The Dolphin at 30 Jul 2015 8.52pm

Wikipedia - goals are in brackets - not good stats at all!

2009–2011
1. Ipswich Town 65 (13)
2011–
2. Sunderland 74 (11)
2013–2014
&#8594; 3. Sheffield Wednesday (loan) 17 (9)
2014
&#8594; 4. Leeds United (loan) 5 (0

1. Sh*t
2. Sh*t
3. Sh*t
4. Sh*t

Quote oldstand at 30 Jul 2015 11.26pm

Far superior midfield to help him out now.Quality buy.

It's like my grand-pappie always used to say; "the crops depend on the dirt you throw your best seeds into"

Quote sydtheeagle at 30 Jul 2015 10.15pm

If Remy was Plan A and we weren't going to get him, this is better than any of the other Plan B's I've heard mentioned.

It's like my grand-pappie always used to say; "if you can't cut your sandwiches length-ways, cut them diagonally, you still get to eat sandwiches"


What else did your grand-pappie say ?

 


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