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Stuk Top half 15 Feb 13 9.46am | |
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Quote Seth at 14 Feb 2013 6.29pm
Quote Stuk at 14 Feb 2013 5.13pm
FA cup wins in 97 and 2000, runner up in 02. Wish we had a little bit of that averageness. Cheers Stuk, way to do the Chelsea troll's job for him Edited by Seth (14 Feb 2013 11.16pm) Just saying that it wasn't all down to Roman. Hoddle signing Gullit changed Chelsea.
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chelski london 15 Feb 13 9.49am | |
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FA cup wins in 97 and 2000, runner up in 02. Wish we had a little bit of that averageness. Cheers Stuk, way to do the Chelsea troll's job for him Edited by Seth (14 Feb 2013 11.16pm) Just saying that it wasn't all down to Roman. Hoddle signing Gullit changed Chelsea.
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chelski london 15 Feb 13 9.50am | |
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Quote TJ at 15 Feb 2013 9.33am
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I don't really see the point of this thread, I don't remember our chairman bragging about our youth team beating Chelsea's youth team last season but I'll take the OPs word for it. As much as we love our academy here I don't think even die hard Palace fans would go on Chelsea boards bragging about winning a youth game. Either way I genuinly believe our academy is better than Chelsea's. More importantly we give our young players a chance, other than Bertrand recently Chelsea cannot say the same Actaully he did. On Sky Sports programme about the EPPP. Where was my insult I threw?
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chelski london 15 Feb 13 10.59am | |
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Harding began the revolution
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akiisalegend Croydon 15 Feb 13 11.13am | |
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Quote chelski at 15 Feb 2013 9.33am
They cannot afford to waste time on youngsters, that's our job.
Correct me if im wrong but isnt the only player to come through your academy in past 10 years thats gone on to be a proven player is JT? Mceachran and Bertrand obviously have the talent to succeed but atm dont think can be classed as a very good product yet. Im not saying chelseas academy isnt good but just saying that the reason it may not get the credit it deserves because lately it hasnt really produced anyone of note? Also on a note to what you were saying about profit. Doesnt your profit include the winnings from the champions league?
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Azerbaijan Eagle 15 Feb 13 11.30am | |
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Chelski, This video shows our clubs at their most recent lowest - and by recent I mean 1976. This time we won. You almost went bust, we did about this time. In the 50's Sunderland were the richest team in the league, before them, the best was Wolves. Liverpool were a 2nd Division yo yo team before Shankly came along. Tottenham and Man Utd were in the 2nd division in the 70's All Abramovich has to do is fall out somehow with Mr Putin and you will be screwed. The fact is that Man Utd used to be the most hated club in the country, now they are not - it is you first, Man City second. Fair or unfair, that is the case. You coming on here is the same as me going on to Crawley Town's website bragging because we beat them at the start of the year. 1976 - two pretty much home grown teams, one from West London, one from South - we won. No dubiously gained millions to be seen - just straight forward evolution of two football clubs over a 70 odd year history. Good luck for the future - let's hope for your sake that the 2nd division doesn't beckon for you too soon. I'll start off your reply.............. "Oh dear"
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chelski london 15 Feb 13 11.40am | |
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Quote chelski at 15 Feb 2013 9.33am
They cannot afford to waste time on youngsters, that's our job.
Correct me if im wrong but isnt the only player to come through your academy in past 10 years thats gone on to be a proven player is JT? Mceachran and Bertrand obviously have the talent to succeed but atm dont think can be classed as a very good product yet. Im not saying chelseas academy isnt good but just saying that the reason it may not get the credit it deserves because lately it hasnt really produced anyone of note? Also on a note to what you were saying about profit. Doesnt your profit include the winnings from the champions league? Listed academy products earlier, but Jack Cork (Southampton) and Carlton Cole (West Ham). However accepted it could have been better BUT as I stated the players coming through now are beginning to show great promise and in large numbers (check our players on loan) In terms of profit.Yes in those figures they incluse the Champions League TV money BUT they dont include the massive increase in sales of merchandise and the projected increased revenues from sponsors and companies. Additonally the increased TV revenue will ofset loses from Champions League early exit.
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Stirlingsays 15 Feb 13 11.41am | |
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I thought that Abramovich had already moved his assets out of Russia? Maybe, I'm wrong. Abramovich being as rich as he is ....Well, that's due to state corruption. The turning over of whole state industries. It was a crime committed against the Russian people when they, so called, went 'democratic', one of so many crimes really....Most of them are insulated against the corruption though as the press there is hardly free. Chelsea's success is funded on the back of money that would have been criminally gained if that had happened here. But to be fair to Chelsea it's similar to what goes on with lots of foreign cash that enters London...From the Middle east, Africa and Russia/Eastern states.
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jcreedy 15 Feb 13 11.44am | |
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Bertrand was nicked from Gillingham.
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Azerbaijan Eagle 15 Feb 13 11.50am | |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 15 Feb 2013 11.41am
I thought that Abramovich had already moved his assets out of Russia? Maybe, I'm wrong. Abramovich being as rich as he is ....Well, that's due to state corruption. The turning over of whole state industries. It was a crime committed against the Russian people when they, so called, went 'democratic', one of so many crimes really....Most of them are insulated against the corruption though as the press there is hardly free. Chelsea's success is funded on the back of money that would have been criminally gained if that had happened here. But to be fair to Chelsea it's similar to what goes on with lots of foreign cash that enters London...From the Middle east, Africa and Russia/Eastern states.
The Daily Telegraph is owned by a Russian - wonder why their World Cup bid was never questioned but Qatar's was?
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akiisalegend Croydon 15 Feb 13 11.50am | |
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Quote chelski at 15 Feb 2013 11.40am
Quote akiisalegend at 15 Feb 2013 11.13am
Quote chelski at 15 Feb 2013 9.33am
They cannot afford to waste time on youngsters, that's our job.
Correct me if im wrong but isnt the only player to come through your academy in past 10 years thats gone on to be a proven player is JT? Mceachran and Bertrand obviously have the talent to succeed but atm dont think can be classed as a very good product yet. Im not saying chelseas academy isnt good but just saying that the reason it may not get the credit it deserves because lately it hasnt really produced anyone of note? Also on a note to what you were saying about profit. Doesnt your profit include the winnings from the champions league? Listed academy products earlier, but Jack Cork (Southampton) and Carlton Cole (West Ham). However accepted it could have been better BUT as I stated the players coming through now are beginning to show great promise and in large numbers (check our players on loan) In terms of profit.Yes in those figures they incluse the Champions League TV money BUT they dont include the massive increase in sales of merchandise and the projected increased revenues from sponsors and companies. Additonally the increased TV revenue will ofset loses from Champions League early exit.
Yeah good shout with the sponsorship/merchandise etc, hadnt taken that into account. Be interested to see how the books balance with the increase in transfer spend/wages and losses of champs league money compared to the money you get in like you say with sponsorship/TV etc.
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chelski london 15 Feb 13 11.50am | |
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Quote Azerbaijan Eagle at 15 Feb 2013 11.30am
Chelski, This video shows our clubs at their most recent lowest - and by recent I mean 1976. This time we won. You almost went bust, we did about this time. In the 50's Sunderland were the richest team in the league, before them, the best was Wolves. Liverpool were a 2nd Division yo yo team before Shankly came along. Tottenham and Man Utd were in the 2nd division in the 70's All Abramovich has to do is fall out somehow with Mr Putin and you will be screwed. The fact is that Man Utd used to be the most hated club in the country, now they are not - it is you first, Man City second. Fair or unfair, that is the case. You coming on here is the same as me going on to Crawley Town's website bragging because we beat them at the start of the year. 1976 - two pretty much home grown teams, one from West London, one from South - we won. No dubiously gained millions to be seen - just straight forward evolution of two football clubs over a 70 odd year history. Good luck for the future - let's hope for your sake that the 2nd division doesn't beckon for you too soon. I'll start off your reply.............. "Oh dear"
In terms of financial status of clubs today compared to the 50's and 60's you must really live an alternate universe if you can compare the financial wealth of clubs today to those of the past. One thing is certain if you look at the top richest clubs in the world today, the vast amount have been there a long time. The fact is that once you become a big club in recent history you stay big. And when I refer to a big club I refer to the top ten in the world.
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