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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 14 Jan 19 9.17am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I haven't read all the thread and may have got the wrong end of the stick but maybe he meant that this would give our young players a chance to progress He did. How dare he think of people from home. How selfish.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jan 19 9.19am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Not me If i was to vote that way I'd want to be convinced with compelling facts and figures of how we would be better off, not just grandiose statements from people who only have self interest at heart That is ultimately why we’re leaving. You’ll understand one day, but you think it’s so terrible so maybe not.
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Pussay Patrol  14 Jan 19 9.27am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
That is ultimately why we’re leaving. You’ll understand one day, but you think it’s so terrible so maybe not. No I mean personal self interest People telling you brexit is good because they want to be pm, or they have hedge funds, or they are millionaires who own football clubs or the Ritz etc
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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| W12 14 Jan 19 9.31am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I haven't read all the thread and may have got the wrong end of the stick but maybe he meant that this would give our young players a chance to progress I did but I still don’t even understand that argument. WTF is he/she/they on about?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jan 19 9.54am |
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Originally posted by W12
I did but I still don’t even understand that argument. WTF is he/she/they on about? Read the article again then. If an EU citizen is in an academy for 3 years he’s effectively a home grown player like Wilf or Bissaka. FIFA laws state you can’t buy a player from overseas under 18 I think so that rules out worldwide players but FIFA rules can’t overrule EU law because it would go to court and lose. Therefore you can recruit youth from the EU, stockpile them if you like, effectively excluding home born players the chance if those EU players are better at the time. Football has more Brexit similarities than you think.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jan 19 10.08am |
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Where they stand ahead of the vote: Telegraph: no deal
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jan 19 10.22am |
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Where does Gary Linekar stand, apart from his perfect surroundings?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 14 Jan 19 10.25am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Where they stand ahead of the vote: Telegraph: no deal Where the public stand: None of those - remain.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jan 19 10.28am |
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You do make me smile steely. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2019 10.33am)
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Attachment: | Badger11 Beckenham 14 Jan 19 10.38am |
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Corbyn wants a General Election but I honestly don't see what this will achieve. Vince Cable was on the same show as Corbyn and I think Corbyn was asked 5 times what his position was and the interviewer and Cable were none the wiser. If we have a GE as A Tory Brexiteer who is opposed to May's deal who do I vote for? If you are a Labour Remainer who do you vote for? It will only make sense if Labour stop sitting on the fence and come out as a Remain party. This will be popular with the activists but will split the Labour voters as some 5mm of them voted to leave. However at least the voters would then have a clear choice and no doubt Remainers and Leavers would then vote accordingly. Labour's current position remind me of the Milliband manifesto, their solution to Tory austerity was to do the same thing only better. Essentially that is what Corbyn is saying trust me I can get a better deal but he still wants to leave. My hope is after a devastating Commons defeat the EU realises that he it has to offer a termination clause or risk a no deal Brexit. I don't like May's deal and would rather a no deal but right now I would settle for it providing we have an escape clause. PS Edited by Badger11 (14 Jan 2019 10.43am)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 14 Jan 19 10.41am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You do make me smile steely. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2019 10.33am) Changed sides to the BBC? Scrap that other thread then! It was all nonsense anyway....
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| steeleye20 Croydon 14 Jan 19 10.58am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Corbyn wants a General Election but I honestly don't see what this will achieve. Vince Cable was on the same show as Corbyn and I think Corbyn was asked 5 times what his position was and the interviewer and Cable were none the wiser. If we have a GE as A Tory Brexiteer who is opposed to May's deal who do I vote for? If you are a Labour Remainer who do you vote for? It will only make sense if Labour stop sitting on the fence and come out as a Remain party. This will be popular with the activists but will split the Labour voters as some 5mm of them voted to leave. However at least the voters would then have a clear choice and no doubt Remainers and Leavers would then vote accordingly. Labour's current position remind me of the Milliband manifesto, their solution to Tory austerity was to do the same thing only better. Essentially that is what Corbyn is saying trust me I can get a better deal but he still wants to leave. My hope is after a devastating Commons defeat the EU realises that he it has to offer a termination clause or risk a no deal Brexit. I don't like May's deal and would rather a no deal but right now I would settle for it providing we have an escape clause. 'If you are a Labour Remainer who do you vote for?' Precisely. Why would a labour leader be listening to leave and not remain, when his party is pro-remain and more importantly then polls show 65% of the public want remain. To win an election he needs their votes surely. He will be difficult to shift as the PM, May and Corbyn both live in a 'bubble' divorced from any reality. That is the main requirement for the job of PM, after all the disasters we need a different system. As soon as they enter Number 10, the window frosts over.
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