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 Matov  13 Jan 19 10.44am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The reality is that the majority of people probably don't want to leave the EU, especially May's ludicrous deal. The only reality that matters is that of what happened on June 23rd 2016. We were asked a simple question and given an assurance that the result would be acted upon. A majority voted for Leave. That is it. That f***ing simple. What part of that do you not understand? The Remain campaign ended on that day.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 13 Jan 19 10.52am |
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Originally posted by Matov
The only reality that matters is that of what happened on June 23rd 2016. We were asked a simple question and given an assurance that the result would be acted upon. A majority voted for Leave. That is it. That f***ing simple. What part of that do you not understand? The Remain campaign ended on that day. That assurance was from a Tory PM, forget it !
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| Matov 13 Jan 19 10.58am |
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Parliament voted by an overwhelming majority to ask the British people the question. The Government who proposed that legislation then promised, with no small print, that the decision would be implemented. Then in 2017 we had a general election in which the two parties who garnered well over 80% of the vote both pledged to honour the Brexit vote. We have been assured, time and time again. If we are still in the EU come April 1st, we have been betrayed.
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| chris123 hove actually 13 Jan 19 11.05am |
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We leave - it's the law, an act of parliament. The only thing that can change that is another act of parliamnt.
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Pussay Patrol  13 Jan 19 12.15pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Parliament voted by an overwhelming majority to ask the British people the question. The Government who proposed that legislation then promised, with no small print, that the decision would be implemented. Then in 2017 we had a general election in which the two parties who garnered well over 80% of the vote both pledged to honour the Brexit vote. We have been assured, time and time again. If we are still in the EU come April 1st, we have been betrayed. not necessarily, there was no deadline set in 2016. as long as it does happen in whichever form and whatever date then they have fulfilled that promise The only way to have EXACTLY what you want is more democracy
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 becky over the moon 13 Jan 19 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
not necessarily, there was no deadline set in 2016. as long as it does happen in whichever form and whatever date then they have fulfilled that promise The only way to have EXACTLY what you want is more democracy The deadline was surely set when Article 50 was delivered to the EU. The time between delivery and leaving was set within Article 50 itself. Edited by becky (13 Jan 2019 12.25pm)
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| becky over the moon 13 Jan 19 12.28pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
We leave - it's the law, an act of parliament. The only thing that can change that is another act of parliamnt. That Act of Parliament also received (as does every AoP) Royal Assent before it became Law. It would be interesting to see what happens if Her Majesty (as she has the right so to do)refused the Royal Assent to any further legislation to 'undo' the result of the referendum. the last monarch who refused was of course King Charles - and we all know what happened to him!
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| Pussay Patrol 13 Jan 19 12.28pm |
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Originally posted by becky
The deadline was surely set when Article 50 was delivered to the EU. The time between delivery and leaving was set within Article 50 itself. Edited by becky (13 Jan 2019 12.25pm) yes and the rules say we can delay or revoke that that does not relate directly to the democratic vote in 2016
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| Pussay Patrol 13 Jan 19 12.29pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
We leave - it's the law, an act of parliament. The only thing that can change that is another act of parliamnt. Funny how Gina Miller got dogs abuse and death threats from the leave side for that
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| steeleye20 Croydon 13 Jan 19 12.52pm |
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Originally posted by becky
That Act of Parliament also received (as does every AoP) Royal Assent before it became Law. It would be interesting to see what happens if Her Majesty (as she has the right so to do)refused the Royal Assent to any further legislation to 'undo' the result of the referendum. the last monarch who refused was of course King Charles - and we all know what happened to him! Don't lose your head eh? Charles was not actually in contempt of parliament so logically the tories should have an even worse fate than Charlie did!!
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| chris123 hove actually 13 Jan 19 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Funny how Gina Miller got dogs abuse and death threats from the leave side for that That was Parliament voting, not the Act of Parliament.
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| Pussay Patrol 13 Jan 19 4.28pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
That was Parliament voting, not the Act of Parliament. OK, so the leave side argue the referendum result constitutes an act or parliament and therefore be adhered to in the name of democracy, but someone who seeks to have the result ratified by a democratic parliamentary vote is an enemy?
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