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steeleye20 Croydon 11 Jan 19 7.04pm
Originally posted by becky You forget, the elderly are the ones brought up on post-war rationing and shortages, so are the group least likely to need Ray Mear's advice on how to make a tasty nourishing meal. All you need is a few bones, a turnip, a carrot and a soup cube..... still at least Purley should produce a few hedgehogs to roll up in clay and bake in a bonfire for protein I am one of the 'elderly' myself (sob). 'Let us go forward together' W. Churchill. I am looking forward to going foraging post-brexit, fancy meeting up?
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Croydon 11 Jan 19 7.04pm

Originally posted by becky

You forget, the elderly are the ones brought up on post-war rationing and shortages, so are the group least likely to need Ray Mear's advice on how to make a tasty nourishing meal. All you need is a few bones, a turnip, a carrot and a soup cube..... still at least Purley should produce a few hedgehogs to roll up in clay and bake in a bonfire for protein

I am one of the 'elderly' myself (sob).

'Let us go forward together' W. Churchill.

I am looking forward to going foraging post-brexit, fancy meeting up?

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elgrande bedford 11 Jan 19 7.14pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Personally I am sad for brexiteers. I want to do something tangible to help them. So I recommend 'Ray Mears Bushcraft Skills' to them. Especially made for the elderly and a free map of Purley is enclosed....... "Nurse..nurse......nurse,hes got the laptop again". always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 11 Jan 19 7.14pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Personally I am sad for brexiteers.

I want to do something tangible to help them.

So I recommend 'Ray Mears Bushcraft Skills' to them.

Especially made for the elderly and a free map of Purley is enclosed.......

"Nurse..nurse......nurse,hes got the laptop again".

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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W12 11 Jan 19 7.42pm
If we get anything like a true Brexit the EU will collapse in short order. They can’t afford us to leave.
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W12 11 Jan 19 7.42pm

If we get anything like a true Brexit the EU will collapse in short order.

They can’t afford us to leave.

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.TUX. 11 Jan 19 7.45pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol No deal is the worse case scenario Only a moron would activly seek that Agreed. As we've done so well and are positively thriving while being part of 'the bloc' only a moron would want to lea............hang on, give me a minute, it's on the tip of my tongue, no, sorry it's gone. Did you receive your 7,600 cheque? Buy Litecoin.
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11 Jan 19 7.45pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

No deal is the worse case scenario

Only a moron would activly seek that

Agreed.
As we've done so well and are positively thriving while being part of 'the bloc' only a moron would want to lea............hang on, give me a minute, it's on the tip of my tongue, no, sorry it's gone.

Did you receive your 7,600 cheque?

Buy Litecoin.

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steeleye20 Croydon 11 Jan 19 7.51pm
The UK is no longer the 'gateway to Europe' due to brexit. Another casualty of brexit today at Ford Bridgend, after Jaguar job loses and the probable cancellation by Hitachi of a new nuclear plant. After the Japanese PM was brushed off by May he went to the Netherlands and the reason is very obvious. It is such a shame, as the UK has shaken of its bad boy image. But the UK does not acknowledge reality anymore.
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Croydon 11 Jan 19 7.51pm

The UK is no longer the 'gateway to Europe' due to brexit.

Another casualty of brexit today at Ford Bridgend, after Jaguar job loses and the probable cancellation by Hitachi of a new nuclear plant.

After the Japanese PM was brushed off by May he went to the Netherlands and the reason is very obvious.

It is such a shame, as the UK has shaken of its bad boy image.

But the UK does not acknowledge reality anymore.

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.TUX. 11 Jan 19 7.54pm
Originally posted by W12 If we get anything like a true Brexit the EU will collapse in short order. They can’t afford us to leave. Is the truth. I'll happily thumb the pages of Ray Mears book that Steely has generously offered and in return i hope the lube i send the Remoaners is equally helpful. They'll be needing more before i finish page one. Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

11 Jan 19 7.54pm

Originally posted by W12

If we get anything like a true Brexit the EU will collapse in short order.

They can’t afford us to leave.

Is the truth.

I'll happily thumb the pages of Ray Mears book that Steely has generously offered and in return i hope the lube i send the Remoaners is equally helpful.
They'll be needing more before i finish page one.

Buy Litecoin.

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cryrst The garden of England 11 Jan 19 8.31pm
Originally posted by W12 If we get anything like a true Brexit the EU will collapse in short order. They can’t afford us to leave. Really? Of the 13 billion we got about 8 billion back in one form or other. Once they impose different tariffs and taxes they will get their 5 billion and so much nore.
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The garden of England 11 Jan 19 8.31pm

Originally posted by W12

If we get anything like a true Brexit the EU will collapse in short order.

They can’t afford us to leave.

Really?
Of the 13 billion we got about 8 billion back in one form or other.
Once they impose different tariffs and taxes they will get their 5 billion and so much nore.

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dynamicdick Dormansland 11 Jan 19 9.02pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Dominic Grieve, a leading Conservative pro-European, has said that Brexit would be similar to “national suicide”. The Grieve amendment may well have prevented May crashing the country out of the EU. He is one smart operator, if the tories had him as PM things would be different, not just with brexit. You mean traitor Grieve the enemy of democracy, the man who right from the moment the vote result was known set about to undermine every piece of negotiation that the Government attempted. He never accepted the result and is an uttter disgrace. He should have used his time in supporting the Government to carry to a successful conclusion the leave result and not actively derail it. Bring back Brolin
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Dormansland 11 Jan 19 9.02pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Dominic Grieve, a leading Conservative pro-European, has said that Brexit would be similar to “national suicide”.

The Grieve amendment may well have prevented May crashing the country out of the EU.

He is one smart operator, if the tories had him as PM things would be different, not just with brexit.

You mean traitor Grieve the enemy of democracy, the man who right from the moment the vote result was known set about to undermine every piece of negotiation that the Government attempted. He never accepted the result and is an uttter disgrace. He should have used his time in supporting the Government to carry to a successful conclusion the leave result and not actively derail it.

Bring back Brolin

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chris123 hove actually 11 Jan 19 9.25pm
Originally posted by dynamicdick You mean traitor Grieve the enemy of democracy, the man who right from the moment the vote result was known set about to undermine every piece of negotiation that the Government attempted. He never accepted the result and is an uttter disgrace. He should have used his time in supporting the Government to carry to a successful conclusion the leave result and not actively derail it. South Bucks which includes Beaconsfield voted by a small majority -out.
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chris123

hove actually 11 Jan 19 9.25pm

Originally posted by dynamicdick

South Bucks which includes Beaconsfield voted by a small majority -out.

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Stirlingsays 11 Jan 19 11.46pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I completely disagree. Farage never underwent anything like the same kind of treatment. He was never an MP so had no position in the UK. He was only ever a MEP with a very restricted and specific role. MEPs are not involved in the Brexit debate. MPs are and when going about their job need protection from harassment and intimidation from unruly mobs. If Farage had been treated in the same way in Brussels, or in a TV studio, as Soubry was outside Parliament then you would have a case. He wasn't. Calling figures on the right "Nazis" depends upon whether they make utterances that justify that description. Some do, some don't. Nothing I have ever heard from Soubry comes close to warranting such a description, nor indeed from Farage by the way, but some do express some views that are resonant of the Nazi attitude. The video evidence is there and I'll happy for your statement to stand for others to judge. Farage has received far worse than Soubry and over many years and so you deny reality in the name of political tribalism. Personally I see your justification for one but not the other and your differentiation between forms of politician as a watershed statement for anyone that the gloves are off. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jan 2019 1.01am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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11 Jan 19 11.46pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I completely disagree. Farage never underwent anything like the same kind of treatment. He was never an MP so had no position in the UK. He was only ever a MEP with a very restricted and specific role. MEPs are not involved in the Brexit debate. MPs are and when going about their job need protection from harassment and intimidation from unruly mobs. If Farage had been treated in the same way in Brussels, or in a TV studio, as Soubry was outside Parliament then you would have a case. He wasn't. Calling figures on the right "Nazis" depends upon whether they make utterances that justify that description. Some do, some don't. Nothing I have ever heard from Soubry comes close to warranting such a description, nor indeed from Farage by the way, but some do express some views that are resonant of the Nazi attitude.

The video evidence is there and I'll happy for your statement to stand for others to judge.

Farage has received far worse than Soubry and over many years and so you deny reality in the name of political tribalism.

Personally I see your justification for one but not the other and your differentiation between forms of politician as a watershed statement for anyone that the gloves are off.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jan 2019 1.01am)

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Matov 12 Jan 19 2.18am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Personally I see your justification for one but not the other and your differentiation between forms of politician as a watershed statement for anyone that the gloves are off. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jan 2019 1.01am) We are sliding towards a civil conflict that will change this country forever. And the left simply cannot or will not see it. Watched that Brexit film on C4 the other night and whilst I have my issues with much of it, one line in particular struck me, along the lines that in Britain today the clever people are no longer clever. And it stuck with me. How on earth anybody can claim that what Farage has had to endure now for years is not comparable to a few idiots mouthing off at that dreadful woman is beyond a farce. It is actually rather sinister. When the Brexit referendum was announced a variety of family friends, all from the former Yugoslavia and independently of each other told me that the UK had started to feel much like their old country had in the years running up to their own little bit of internal strife. At the time I made the right noises but thought them a bit ott but now? We potentially are at a tipping point as a nation and I cannot ever recollect being so unsure about what this country will be like in 6 months time, let alone a year. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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12 Jan 19 2.18am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Personally I see your justification for one but not the other and your differentiation between forms of politician as a watershed statement for anyone that the gloves are off.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jan 2019 1.01am)

We are sliding towards a civil conflict that will change this country forever. And the left simply cannot or will not see it.

Watched that Brexit film on C4 the other night and whilst I have my issues with much of it, one line in particular struck me, along the lines that in Britain today the clever people are no longer clever. And it stuck with me.

How on earth anybody can claim that what Farage has had to endure now for years is not comparable to a few idiots mouthing off at that dreadful woman is beyond a farce. It is actually rather sinister.

When the Brexit referendum was announced a variety of family friends, all from the former Yugoslavia and independently of each other told me that the UK had started to feel much like their old country had in the years running up to their own little bit of internal strife. At the time I made the right noises but thought them a bit ott but now?

We potentially are at a tipping point as a nation and I cannot ever recollect being so unsure about what this country will be like in 6 months time, let alone a year.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Stirlingsays 12 Jan 19 4.56am
Originally posted by Matov We are sliding towards a civil conflict that will change this country forever. And the left simply cannot or will not see it. Watched that Brexit film on C4 the other night and whilst I have my issues with much of it, one line in particular struck me, along the lines that in Britain today the clever people are no longer clever. And it stuck with me. How on earth anybody can claim that what Farage has had to endure now for years is not comparable to a few idiots mouthing off at that dreadful woman is beyond a farce. It is actually rather sinister. When the Brexit referendum was announced a variety of family friends, all from the former Yugoslavia and independently of each other told me that the UK had started to feel much like their old country had in the years running up to their own little bit of internal strife. At the time I made the right noises but thought them a bit ott but now? We potentially are at a tipping point as a nation and I cannot ever recollect being so unsure about what this country will be like in 6 months time, let alone a year. Interesting thoughts, I'd agree with the underlying premises but perhaps the time line is longer....I don't know....but I'd agree that this is the location that we are heading towards....parts of Europe are getting there quicker than us....and far worse is inevitable in the the US. While that manlet Owen Jones is a truly awful human being (who I know actually believes himself to be morally right) there was one aspect of what he said on 'Last night' that I couldn't disagree with him on......He was warning about....what he called the 'far right'. I won't get into their ridiculously mobile ideas on what is far right and what isn't. But I do recognise a growing dissentient movement of mostly white men and some women who are starting to feel disenfranchised from the government and its institutions. So Owen is right to notice the growing opposition to concepts that he holds as self evident truth. I certainly don't think we are far from our own yellow jacket situation.....though traditionally British Europeans don't riot in large numbers.....A fact that the establishment here have been relying on for a long time. All while the country is doing reasonably economically the lid is kept on.....but the underlying problems are getting worst not better, the disconnect widens. I don't know what's ahead in the short term......But long term anyone with half a brain who looks at the demographics and the inevitable power shifts has to be an idealist not to worry......and I'm angry with the people and ideology that put us on this road....and those people are and were from both left and right. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jan 2019 5.02am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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12 Jan 19 4.56am

Originally posted by Matov

We are sliding towards a civil conflict that will change this country forever. And the left simply cannot or will not see it.

We potentially are at a tipping point as a nation and I cannot ever recollect being so unsure about what this country will be like in 6 months time, let alone a year.

Interesting thoughts, I'd agree with the underlying premises but perhaps the time line is longer....I don't know....but I'd agree that this is the location that we are heading towards....parts of Europe are getting there quicker than us....and far worse is inevitable in the the US.

While that manlet Owen Jones is a truly awful human being (who I know actually believes himself to be morally right) there was one aspect of what he said on 'Last night' that I couldn't disagree with him on......He was warning about....what he called the 'far right'.

I won't get into their ridiculously mobile ideas on what is far right and what isn't. But I do recognise a growing dissentient movement of mostly white men and some women who are starting to feel disenfranchised from the government and its institutions. So Owen is right to notice the growing opposition to concepts that he holds as self evident truth.

I certainly don't think we are far from our own yellow jacket situation.....though traditionally British Europeans don't riot in large numbers.....A fact that the establishment here have been relying on for a long time. All while the country is doing reasonably economically the lid is kept on.....but the underlying problems are getting worst not better, the disconnect widens.

I don't know what's ahead in the short term......But long term anyone with half a brain who looks at the demographics and the inevitable power shifts has to be an idealist not to worry......and I'm angry with the people and ideology that put us on this road....and those people are and were from both left and right.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jan 2019 5.02am)

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