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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Aug 24 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

No, I wasn't. If it wasn't clear why not clarify before posting?
It's important to you because it distracts from the bien pensant Utopia that some find it comforting to believe exists.
Three children have been killed and several others injured but...but...but look...extreme right wing protesters. Concentrate on them instead. Untold numbers of young girls groomed and raped...but...but...Tommy Robinson.
When there is no available bogey man to act as a distraction then there's always don't look back in anger.
It's like the three card trick.

He loves it.

Thinks he's some kind of Martin Luther King Jnr on here.

Though his 'I have a dream' speech is more like, 'I have a finger stuck up my backside' speech.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 24 10.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

A la Manchester. Hung drawn and quartered on selective videos. Did yo say this at the time? Perhaps Glazier could give an option on that incident or, indeed, Harehills

Not then, but after my ex policeman mate and fellow Palace supporter explained it to me, I did. Andy Burnham has said much the same.

No one is all innocence.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Aug 24 10.23pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It wasn’t me who diverted the thread and I have already acknowledged it ought to have its own but, for the moment at least, this is where the riots are being discussed.

If you don’t want to acknowledge the points I made and therefore to avoid the implications fine. That’s your choice. They won’t go away though.

They won't go away because their perpetuation continues to be a distraction.
Start a different thread if this is the component you want to concentrate on.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 24 10.25pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky


Sounds a bit too much like grooming here........

The only grooming I have done today, or ever before anyone jumps up, is have my hair cut.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 24 10.28pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

They won't go away because their perpetuation continues to be a distraction.
Start a different thread if this is the component you want to concentrate on.

As I see literally no posts, even from you, with the exception of a very recent one, about the original subject, why don’t you ask for the title to be changed on this and then start a new one yourself.

It’s you doing the diverting in order to avoid the really important points.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Aug 2024 10.41pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 24 10.38pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

No, I wasn't. If it wasn't clear why not clarify before posting?
It's important to you because it distracts from the bien pensant Utopia that some find it comforting to believe exists.
Three children have been killed and several others injured but...but...but look...extreme right wing protesters. Concentrate on them instead. Untold numbers of young girls groomed and raped...but...but...Tommy Robinson.
When there is no available bogey man to act as a distraction then there's always don't look back in anger.
It's like the three card trick.

This was the original post and your reply, the meaning of which did not appear to require any clarification. Only when you said you could not understand a later response did I, politely, give you the opportunity to explain what to me seemed obvious:

Me

Those good old days that the right still dream can be recreated?

You

What makes you think they aren't being recreated?

I still think that’s obvious and my response perfectly understandable.

Maybe, just maybe, you are demonstrating pedantry again?

Let’s not bore people will silly things again. There are important issues going on.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Aug 24 10.40pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As I see literally no posts, even from you, about the original subject, why don’t you ask for the title to be changed on this and then start a new one yourself.

It’s you doing the diverting in order to avoid the really important points.

I didn't comment on the original subject because I assumed everyone's feelings would be the same and am only doing so now in an attempt to divert this endless stream of self righteousness.
Don't look back in anger until you don't approve of the reaction then lash out in all directions.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Aug 24 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This was the original post and your reply, the meaning of which did not appear to require any clarification. Only when you said you could not understand a later response did I, politely, give you the opportunity to explain what to me seemed obvious:

Me

Those good old days that the right still dream can be recreated?

You

What makes you think they aren't being recreated?

I still think that’s obvious and my response perfectly understandable.

Maybe, just maybe, you are demonstrating pedantry again?

Let’s not bore people will silly things again. There are important issues going on.


“I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken".
O. Cromwell.

It's time to turn the page on the word a day calendar - it's been stuck on pedantry for a while.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Aug 24 11.22pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There have been several events today that I believe need to be discussed, but don’t seem to have been.

Firstly, there were some counter protesters among those sentenced today. The Judge told them that it didn’t matter what their cause was, what the colour of their skin was or what their religion was, if they used violence they would be punished. He also said that sentencing contained two elements. Punishment and deterrence.

So much for two tier justice!

Secondly, the first sentences were given today for online incitement, with the Judge warning that anyone doing so was as legally culpable as those committing the rioting. These were very local to the events, obvious and easy to prove. The big fish have not yet been charged and will doubtless prove a much harder challenge. Especially if they use false identities, live abroad or the platforms refuse to cooperate or, even, involve the owner of the platform. Whilst I have not seen anything here that comes close to being comparable it ought to serve as a warning. There are some hotheads around! Whilst direct incitement is obvious, indirect incitement via defence of illegal activity and identification of types of potential targets may not be.

Thirdly, and probably most importantly my wife has returned home this evening from work with the news that all the international staff at the hospital have been warned by the Trust not to go into Truro city centre tomorrow as there are rumours of intended trouble.

What a situation! Hard working, much needed and appreciated people being warned not to enter their local shopping and recreation area because of the fear of them being targeted because they weren’t born here. Most are highly skilled professionals who are in demand from many other countries, where they can often enjoy higher wages and a better lifestyle. Recruiting and retaining them is hard enough but this will make it even harder. Some are already talking of leaving. No doubt some here would welcome that, but I doubt they would welcome even longer waiting lists in a few months time. For that will be the result.

I wonder if we will ever see the headline “Yobs destroy the NHS”? But we should.

On top is the impact on tourism and local businesses. I have already seen people questioning whether it’s safe to travel.

Yet some still say this is just legitimate protesting. It’s not. It’s disgusting, mindless yobbery.

You should condemn that judge for using colour in the summing up but you don’t. The grooming gangs are “just criminals” you said. Colour and religion do not matter you said. Watch these anti whatever marches get more violent than the anti immigration ones because the only target will be the plod. This is self inflicted by slimer for not being honest right at the start.

 

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NJ CLOCKTOWER Flag Tarragona 10 Aug 24 6.06am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What a surprise. The guy who says he has no more to say, says something. Which is still nothing! Oh well. This 80 year old must try to find some toys,

Narcissists often act like children because their emotional development may be stunted or arrested at an early stage. I told you you act like a child and hey ho look at your post. Also said you have no self-awareness and hey ho look at your post.

 

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NJ CLOCKTOWER Flag Tarragona 10 Aug 24 6.34am

It seems Wisbech is diverting attention away from the original topic, this is because he is seeking validation and attention by shifting the focus onto himself. He seems to find the need to answer everything, and appears frequently on posts.

He must understand but won't. that In discussions, especially sensitive ones like the Southport stabbings, it's important to stay on topic and respect the gravity of the situation.

Other posters should not Respond to or indulge in such behavior as it can derail the conversation further. Also, it validates his narcissistic intentions.

To be fair, I am guilty of this too.

When explaining to him the origins of the Palestinian flag he jumped down my throat and said that's not true then I presented him with facts and all he did was to deliberately avoid answering because of his embarrassment and just kept going with subtle abuse.

He clearly does not care about any of the subjects that are posted he just wants to get a rise out of people.

Edited by NJ CLOCKTOWER (10 Aug 2024 6.38am)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Aug 24 7.37am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by NJ CLOCKTOWER

It seems Wisbech is diverting attention away from the original topic, this is because he is seeking validation and attention by shifting the focus onto himself. He seems to find the need to answer everything, and appears frequently on posts.

He must understand but won't. that In discussions, especially sensitive ones like the Southport stabbings, it's important to stay on topic and respect the gravity of the situation.

Other posters should not Respond to or indulge in such behavior as it can derail the conversation further. Also, it validates his narcissistic intentions.

To be fair, I am guilty of this too.

When explaining to him the origins of the Palestinian flag he jumped down my throat and said that's not true then I presented him with facts and all he did was to deliberately avoid answering because of his embarrassment and just kept going with subtle abuse.

He clearly does not care about any of the subjects that are posted he just wants to get a rise out of people.

Edited by NJ CLOCKTOWER (10 Aug 2024 6.38am)

Yep, he gets some weird kick out of winding up his political opposites on forums.

You are right of course it's kind of pointless engaging him but forums are also places where people let off steam and so he benefits from that.

 


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