They are not part of our democracy. They have been used to supplement it, with disastrous consequences.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

But they are used so are part of it. QED.

That they have been doesn’t mean they will again.

A referendum in the UK has no force in law. Law making is vested solely in our Parliament, and the ascent of the Monarch.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

You are correct that it is indeed not a 'classically defined vaccine', in other words, not the established method of delivery much like, say, the flu vaccine.

If you don't trust pharmas I don't blame you. One should always be incredibly critical and look beyond the usual sales guff. Alterior motives etc. Read Big Pharma by Ben Goldacre, for example.

However.

Ultimately there's nothing credible out there that I'm aware of to suggest that mRNA vaccines, or other mRNA treatments are gene altering or 'gene therapy'.

Taking an excerpt from Crodas own site, 'The scale of the opportunity in future mRNA and gene therapy applications is reflected in the market size which has grown rapidly since the onset of COVID-19.'

The key word there is 'and'.

One uses viral genetic material. Viral, not human. The other uses either a copy of a human gene or a GM version of one to attempt to successfully alter malfunctioning human genes. Big difference

In some ways it's the same as the blunderbuss approach of the flu vaccine but instead removing all of the virus apart from the bit that makes the body produce a defence. Seems like a good idea to me.

If it did change your DNA, the worlds largest ever live trial of vaccines, including Pfizers one, covering 100s of millions of injections, would have shown up some serious issues then, and now, and the lawsuits would be free flowing and ruinous on an unimaginable scale. I don't think that there's a very high probability that they'd backdoor something like this deliberately or otherwise, or be able to do so in secret for multiple, fairly obvious reasons.

At the time, as appears to be the case now, I think that most people heard 'RNA', immediately thought 'DNA' et voila.

Maybe better comms were needed, after all not everyone cares to read up on things in detail. Or maybe it wouldn't have made any difference. Probably the latter

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

How very unscientific

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

that isn't what you meant as you well know!!