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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Feb 20 9.54am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

These grooming gangs are Islamic.

How Muslims or anyone else feels about that is irreverent.

We won't agree on hiding the truth just because the truth can be unpalatable.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 20 9.56am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Why are you changing the habits of a lifetime as you've bored everyone stupid with your constant repetition for years and have single handedly ruined this forum as a discussion centre for most people

I see you aren't changing your habits either.

I freely admit I have habits, or as I prefer to describe them, standards.

I prefer truth to lies and if I see lies then I will call them out. If that happens frequently then that's only because the lies tend to be repeated.

I also know that many would like this place to be a cosy right wing echo chamber where everyone can live in a bubble of confirmation bias. There are plenty of closed entry forums where people like me get excluded. If that's what people want then I suggest they join them and then they won't be "bored" by me. This, so far as I know, is a football supporters forum, which has a News?Politics sub section open to ALL supporters, whatever their views might be and however they might wish to express them. Whether such a section is wise is a matter for the site owners, but whilst it does as a supporter I will use it.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 26 Feb 20 10.02am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Why are you changing the habits of a lifetime as you've bored everyone stupid with your constant repetition for years and have single handedly ruined this forum as a discussion centre for most people

There are far more many guilty parties than WE on this and you know it.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Feb 20 10.02am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

You'll never convince him. Never in a million years.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 20 10.03am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

The grooming gangs are NOT Islamic.

They are criminal.

The crimes they commit are not carried out by Islam.

They might be carried out by the criminals in the name of Islam, but that is a different matter.

That distinction might not be seen by some, or thought important, but I disagree.

I think we need to be very careful about how we present our reactions so that we keep all the good people, whatever their personal religious beliefs might be, on the side of the law abiding so we can all, working together, isolate the criminals.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Feb 20 10.04am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

There are far more many guilty parties than WE on this and you know it.

You're really not that bad.

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 26 Feb 20 10.58am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The grooming gangs are NOT Islamic.

They are criminal.

The crimes they commit are not carried out by Islam.

They might be carried out by the criminals in the name of Islam, but that is a different matter.

That distinction might not be seen by some, or thought important, but I disagree.

I think we need to be very careful about how we present our reactions so that we keep all the good people, whatever their personal religious beliefs might be, on the side of the law abiding so we can all, working together, isolate the criminals.

What community are these criminals coming from then?

Edited by dannyboy1978 (26 Feb 2020 10.58am)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Feb 20 11.02am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It's like the alcoholic who can't admit that him drinking the alcohol is the problem.

No, he says, the problem is the pub.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2020 11.02am)

 


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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 26 Feb 20 11.57am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

From our public service broadcaster.

'How do I convince the Home Office I'm a lesbian?' [Link]

 

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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 26 Feb 20 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The grooming gangs are NOT Islamic.

They are criminal.

The crimes they commit are not carried out by Islam.

They might be carried out by the criminals in the name of Islam, but that is a different matter.

That distinction might not be seen by some, or thought important, but I disagree.

I think we need to be very careful about how we present our reactions so that we keep all the good people, whatever their personal religious beliefs might be, on the side of the law abiding so we can all, working together, isolate the criminals.

Even the ones shouting "Allahu Akbar" in the court room and referring to the young WHITE girls as "kufr".

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Feb 20 12.42pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am not dreaming of anything. It would just be a side effect but a welcome one.

Moving any further to the right is hardly going to make much difference is it?

As I have suggested many times there is no compulsion at all to read my posts let alone respond to them.

So the fault, and the answer, lies entirely in your own hands and not mine.

Twisted twaddle from a boring narcissist.

You just strengthen the resolve of opposing views.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 20 1.19pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Even the ones shouting "Allahu Akbar" in the court room and referring to the young WHITE girls as "kufr".

They aren't Islam. They are criminals hiding behind a religion to justify evil acts.

Unspeakable acts have been done in the name of religion since religions began. Western society has gradually learned better as religious belief declined. Some have some catching up to do.

 


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