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 steeleye20  Croydon 09 Jan 19 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
If we don't exit as promised I will never vote Conservative again and can see UKIP making a grand comeback You are a salesman's dream, you would sign up to anything with 'leave' on it. Even if it is actually the opposite.
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| steve1984 09 Jan 19 7.36pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018. Parliament passed it and parliament can rescind it. Just like any other law.
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Pussay Patrol  09 Jan 19 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
If we don't exit as promised I will never vote Conservative again and can see UKIP making a grand comeback and open the door for Corbyn and Sturgeon
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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| chris123 hove actually 09 Jan 19 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Parliament passed it and parliament can rescind it. Just like any other law. Before March?
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| steve1984 09 Jan 19 7.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
...but I will struggle to hold any other position other a belief that my vote is no longer considered the equal of those who voted Remain. Which is entirely understandable. How else should you think? But our democracy doesn't belong exclusively to the 17m. It's also my democracy and that of the other 16m that has been trashed. Trashed by a Prime Minister who called a referendum in what he believed was the interests of his party. Lied about his intentions to honour the result. Failed to prepare in anyway for a leave win and then walked. There are plenty that need to be strung up but the first must be David William Donald Cameron. He has held us all in utter contempt.
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| steve1984 09 Jan 19 7.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
... and can see UKIP making a grand comeback Which might mean a Labour government. God help us.
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| steve1984 09 Jan 19 7.47pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
Before March? That can will get kicked.
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| Matov 09 Jan 19 8.18pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Which is entirely understandable. How else should you think? But our democracy doesn't belong exclusively to the 17m. It's also my democracy and that of the other 16m that has been trashed. I don't disagree but the reality is that a failure to uphold the vote by us departing the EU is the actual nub of this. I get all your ire aimed at Cameron and the Tory party but really that is froth and can be dismissed as the usual to'ing and fro'ing of the political discourse. What we are seeing at the moment in Parliament and in particular the events of today goes far beyond that. At least the desire for betrayal is effectively out in the open and Bercow has destroyed any notion of the Speakers role being impartial so whatever the outcome Parliament will have been lessened. Edited by Matov (09 Jan 2019 8.20pm)
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| steve1984 09 Jan 19 8.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
...a failure to uphold the vote by us departing the EU is the actual nub of this. You know full well that the vote was never likely to be upheld. If it had been an exercise in direct democracy then fair enough. But it wasn't. It was an exercise in the tories hanging onto power by misleading the British electorate. And now you want to call the actual betrayal froth and blame Bercow? He didn't tell anyone that he'd honour the result of the referendum and he's under no obligation to do so. Why should anyone now believe that their vote means something?
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| Matov 09 Jan 19 9.10pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
You know full well that the vote was never likely to be upheld. No I never. I went along on June 23rd and voted in good faith. Why on earth would I have thought any different?
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| chris123 hove actually 09 Jan 19 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
No I never. I went along on June 23rd and voted in good faith. Why on earth would I have thought any different? The European Union Referendum Act 2015 passed by 544 votes to 53 - so Parliament was pro referendum by a huge majority.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 09 Jan 19 9.21pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
No I never. I went along on June 23rd and voted in good faith. Why on earth would I have thought any different? In other words Matov, Stevie Boy thinks you & I and 17M others are Dimwits. I agree with you Re the vote we did it in good faith. They Lost & don't like It. Patronising BS from them all or certainly most of them.
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