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W12 09 Jan 19 11.34am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Are your children currently unsafe?

I live in mainland Europe and your view on Europe could not be more wrong, sounds like a perception stemmed from the media rather than first hand experience

Increasingly less so. I live in a well to do part of west London and I have seen a huge rise in burglary/theft on my road but equally mugging and violent crime in the general area (including gun and knife crime). A good friend of mine was stabbed in the leg for not handing over his watch (by Children) on the same route my kids travel to school and we now being advised by Police that we have groups of youths travelling into the area as it's a soft target. There is a lot of drag dealing taking place on the street that never happened before. It's getting worse very quickly.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 09 Jan 19 11.41am

Originally posted by W12

Increasingly less so. I live in a well to do part of west London and I have seen a huge rise in burglary/theft on my road but equally mugging and violent crime in the general area (including gun and knife crime). A good friend of mine was stabbed in the leg for not handing over his watch (by Children) on the same route my kids travel to school and we now being advised by Police that we have groups of youths travelling into the area as it's a soft target. There is a lot of drag dealing taking place on the street that never happened before. It's getting worse very quickly.

That's social deprevation caused by cuts and austerity, as people become poorer they become more desperate and inevitably crime will rise. How many less police do we have since the Conservatives came in?

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 09 Jan 19 11.44am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

That's social deprevation caused by cuts and austerity, as people become poorer they become more desperate and inevitably crime will rise. How many less police do we have since the Conservatives came in?

It's because of the huge increase in the level of scum, much of it imported.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jan 19 11.47am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

There are parts of the world where poor people live without anything like the crime rates seen in London.

It's certainly true that large scale inequality in wealth does lead to higher crime.....but there are massive differences in rates between places.

So wealth inequality is nothing like the whole answer in explaining it.....it is multi faceted.


Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jan 2019 11.48am)

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jan 19 11.59am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Increasingly less so. I live in a well to do part of west London and I have seen a huge rise in burglary/theft on my road but equally mugging and violent crime in the general area (including gun and knife crime). A good friend of mine was stabbed in the leg for not handing over his watch (by Children) on the same route my kids travel to school and we now being advised by Police that we have groups of youths travelling into the area as it's a soft target. There is a lot of drag dealing taking place on the street that never happened before. It's getting worse very quickly.

Whatever side they play for. Both?

 


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W12 09 Jan 19 12.00pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

That's social deprevation caused by cuts and austerity, as people become poorer they become more desperate and inevitably crime will rise. How many less police do we have since the Conservatives came in?

You think it's absolutely nothing to do with absent fathers, youth culture and a breakdown of basic family values? That's so cute!

I agree we need more police on the streets but (1) We tie them up with all sorts of unproductive tasks like diversity training, policing online "hate speech", attending LGBT events, chasing the largely imaginary "far right" etc - stupid stuff (2) When they do go on the streets they are not allowed to touch or search anyone through fear of accusations of brutality etc

We don't respect them and won't let them do their job. Their leaders also let them down massively.

Anyway, I fear we are now way off topic.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 09 Jan 19 12.03pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Leave would just win again.

The British don't tend to like being treated like naughty children.

A big win for remain.

Remaining is the only way of terminating brexit.

People are getting that IMO.

It is a never-ending disease, kill it off.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jan 19 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Leave would just win again.

The British don't tend to like being treated like naughty children.

I enjoyed watching the Channel 4 docu drama I think you can call it on Brexit with Benedict Cumberbatch. Although it was trying to say leave advantaged with analytics, advertising on social media to the right people and being financed by billionaire Mercer who financially backed Trump, the big message that many people are fed up with this EU project and how certain things affect them and bother them was the focus group when the remainers ganged up on the just about managing Mother who lost her sh1t with them and the remain campaign manager realised this had been brewing for ‘25 years’ and leave had effectively had their campaign running for that long and leave had only weeks to campaign. I’m glad that was in the subtly biased drama rather than just Farage whipping up a frenzy in the other leave campaign.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jan 19 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

A big win for remain.

Remaining is the only way of terminating brexit.

People are getting that IMO.

It is a never-ending disease, kill it off.

No doubt you believed something similar before the first vote.

The EU has never been popular outside of a minority.....that's why remain spent most of their energy on economic arguments and never bothered to advocate for any other aspect.

 


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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 09 Jan 19 12.10pm Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Leave would just win again.

The British don't tend to like being treated like naughty children.

Saying that leave only won by a small percentage 52% to 48% I think it was.

A lot of people who weren't eligible to vote in 2016 are eligible now.

Coupled with a lot of the leave brigade might think it's a case of better the devil you know than the devil you don't know and vote remain 2nd time around.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 09 Jan 19 12.12pm

Originally posted by W12

You think it's absolutely nothing to do with absent fathers, youth culture and a breakdown of basic family values? That's so cute!

I agree we need more police on the streets but (1) We tie them up with all sorts of unproductive tasks like diversity training, policing online "hate speech", attending LGBT events, chasing the largely imaginary "far right" etc - stupid stuff (2) When they do go on the streets they are not allowed to touch or search anyone through fear of accusations of brutality etc

We don't respect them and won't let them do their job. Their leaders also let them down massively.

Anyway, I fear we are now way off topic.

Quite right, but your initial point was you voting to leave to feel safer when A) you said we would be poorer but that would only exasperate the problem and B) the actual reasons you felt unsafe actually had nothing to do with being in the EU

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jan 19 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Quite right, but your initial point was you voting to leave to feel safer when A) you said we would be poorer but that would only exasperate the problem and B) the actual reasons you felt unsafe actually had nothing to do with being in the EU

1st stop Germany or Italy, next stop Britain. Romanian criminals and others have children who have children. It’s just adding to the problem, but it if it’s out of sight then maybe people don’t care.

We deserve to decide what we do an when we do it, rather than being controlled and bullied, which in some way would be the 2nd leave referendum message if those trying to undermine democracy and send this country into future generations of anxiety and movement here there and everywhere they may have to take up even if they’d rather not and probably prosperity for even fewer and accept it or shut up for everyone else.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Jan 2019 12.23pm)

 


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