Or were they reporting facts from a source they deemed reliable. Instant dismissal of anything appearing in certain national newspapers is propagating a conspiracy theory in itself.

They reported some facts, but ignored others, thus presenting a picture topped by headlines that their readers already believed and were ready to have confirmed.

That’s not reliable journalism is it?

It’s much more akin to propaganda.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

You may as well say 'vote for the red team or the blue team' as that would be the best differentiation between the two.

Is all the talk on hear about ethnicity really of any value? When it comes to immigration surely such things as capacity, education, religion, culture etc. are far bigger factors than people's aesthetic appearance (although this will always be associated with geographical regions and ultimately indicative of the aforementioned)?

It does seem somewhat futile to label people as 'racist, xenophobic etc.' when they say they don't want their relatively tiny space on this planet, and the technologically, legally and to all other extents and purposes more mature civilisation they have established, stormed by desperate peoples from vastly different locales. That's just common sense surely?

I don't believe arguing about genetics at the dawn of our time is remotely relevant to the situation today. Braverman and co. will have the audacity to say the things they have done recently as it's pretty faultless logic but I suspect it serves more to win votes than provide evidence of intention to do anything meaningful about the situation. If anything it looks as though they are just shaking the hive to see all the bees start fighting furiously inside so they can capitalise on the outcome, whatever that may be.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Braverman is certainly going for it.

Irrespective of her political motivations, she is absolutely right in what she is saying.
She is very brave for saying it, and if European leaders ignore her they will be condemning us all to civil war and ultimately, the virtual extinction of European genetic heritage and culture.

What the grass roots want, and know would be successful in their area has often been ignored by all parties, but the Conservatives seem to have managed a large cabal of MPs with non Conservative values. Boris was a prime example, Osbourne, Cameron and the list goes on.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

I think her idea of growth was fine, her timing and roll out was very poorly handled.

The economy has righted itself somewhat, especially compared to Europe.

The coming years will be tough all round whoever is in charge, there is no room for tax increases so it's difficult.

Hard to say what effect the Ukraine war will have as it is volatile and oil prices and food could jump again.

We are paying the price for choosing not to be energy self sufficient when we had the chance in 2010 to do what was required to have been beneficial today.

Fracking, new nuclear, whatever is available.

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Edited by HKOwen (27 Sep 2023 11.29am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.