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 WJK1960  05 Jul 22 6.33pm |
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He who wields the knife never gets the crown-but Javid has shown balls going first- im voting for him! I understand your point but wonder if they decided to both resign at the same time so neither of them would be seen as the one wielding the knife, thereby giving them a chance should there be a leadership election. Surely there is no way back for Johnson now ??
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 05 Jul 22 6.34pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
The 1922 can change the rules- bungle would understand that
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| Grumbles 05 Jul 22 6.36pm |
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Originally posted by WJK1960
He who wields the knife never gets the crown-but Javid has shown balls going first- im voting for him! I understand your point but wonder if they decided to both resign at the same time so neither of them would be seen as the one wielding the knife, thereby giving them a chance should there be a leadership election. Surely there is no way back for Johnson now ?? You are not wrong, totally orchestrated, you can see it in the language they both used.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Jul 22 6.37pm |
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Originally posted by WJK1960
He who wields the knife never gets the crown-but Javid has shown balls going first- im voting for him! I understand your point but wonder if they decided to both resign at the same time so neither of them would be seen as the one wielding the knife, thereby giving them a chance should there be a leadership election. Surely there is no way back for Johnson now ?? No way back indeed- they could have carved up a top job deal and a swop- like blair/brown, but its early days, respect to Savid thou, unless they did go together and reporting choose him first!
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Jul 22 6.45pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Wow. Never saw either of those coming. And all of the s*** that could finally (and never say never with Johnson) bring down the PM, the fact that it comes down to a drunken moron groping up people has a certain poetic justice. Andrew Marr earlier today thought Javid might resign but wasn’t sure.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 05 Jul 22 6.49pm |
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The whole raison d'etre of this government, brexit, is a complete disaster and everybody knows, but can't say it. Stand up the first politician brave enough to confront us with the truth. The economic figures like our current account deficit equalling 8.7% of GDP, are like a banana republic. Nobody believes a word of this government at home or abroad there is no point in their existence.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Jul 22 6.54pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The whole raison d'etre of this government, brexit, is a complete disaster and everybody knows, but can't say it. Stand up the first politician brave enough to confront us with the truth. The economic figures like our current account deficit equalling 8.7% of GDP, are like a banana republic. Nobody believes a word of this government at home or abroad there is no point in their existence.
Starmer has changed his tube on Brexit and staying out. What’s your opinion on that?
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| Grumbles 05 Jul 22 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Starmer has changed his tube on Brexit and staying out. What’s your opinion on that? TBH, it is done, we are fcked. for today's popularist politicians sensible as the full affects are yet to appear. For any conviction politician like not as bad as continually lying.
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| Matov 05 Jul 22 7.02pm |
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Just seen this... [Tweet Link]
Be the oddest of all outcomes.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Grumbles 05 Jul 22 7.05pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Just seen this... [Tweet Link]
Be the oddest of all outcomes. is the electorate really that dim? or the tory MPs?
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| Matov 05 Jul 22 7.10pm |
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Originally posted by Grumbles
is the electorate really that dim? or the tory MPs?
It's possible. A cheeky bet on Johnson being PM come 2025 might be worth a spare cockle, just for the lolz. The issue is that if he decides not to go then the Tories who want him out, as things stand, only really have one option. Which would be to back a Labour motion for lack of confidence in the Government. That's it, as far as I can see. People want a Government that leads. Sunak was a busted flush anyway and Javid had already supposedly, resigned on principle once before. Maybe this is the shock Johnson needs. But he ain't going anywhere of his own free will.
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cryrst  The garden of England 05 Jul 22 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by Grumbles
is the electorate really that dim? or the tory MPs? So all we’ve heard for two years is how skint people are. Now hmg might help them out for whatever reason they could all be a bit dim! Ironic !
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