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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Jul 19 8.47am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

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Originally posted by samprior

Over the 100 page mark. So have we signed this Tommy Robinson fella yet?

Insert joke about playing position. Far right back, dislikes playing left wing etc

No point he keeps getting a red card.

 


One more point

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 8.51am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

On this we agree.

The problem is that we are allowing thousands upon thousands of overtly religious people to settle and breed here.

We are turning our largely secular country into a new outpost of Islam along with other assorted religions.

How does this fit with your vision for a country of private only faith?

Because I believe in Britain. I believe that our way, our culture and sense of fairness will eventually triumph over any other system which promotes counter values. It just takes time and the determination to ensure that all our citizens are exposed to our values and see for themselves the values of them. That requires effort from us all to ensure opportunity, inclusion and acceptance when successful. Seeking to demonise a whole section of our society, even those within it who are peaceful and want nothing more than a better life for themselves and their families, just makes things worse. It drives such people into the arms of the radicals and not into ours. Which is the primary reason I reject the approach of "Robinson".

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 14 Jul 19 9.08am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Yes I'd gathered that.

I have zero wish to communicate with Wisbech, but he has refused to stop directly posting replies to my posts.

That's a soft form of harassment and while, until we have a block facility, he has that right....I'm under no obligation to treat someone who refuses that request with any respect.


Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2019 12.14am)

You don’t have to reply. You don’t have to have the last word. Get over it. Maybe answer my point about Stephen's self interest in keeping ‘Tommy’ in the media at all costs. He’s on a winner there, isn’t he?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Because I believe in Britain. I believe that our way, our culture and sense of fairness will eventually triumph over any other system which promotes counter values. It just takes time and the determination to ensure that all our citizens are exposed to our values and see for themselves the values of them. That requires effort from us all to ensure opportunity, inclusion and acceptance when successful. Seeking to demonise a whole section of our society, even those within it who are peaceful and want nothing more than a better life for themselves and their families, just makes things worse. It drives such people into the arms of the radicals and not into ours. Which is the primary reason I reject the approach of "Robinson".

Gosh! As I started reading this post I could faintly hear Land of Hope & Glory start playing inside my head........

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 9.21am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There will be a reduction as richer countries contain many anti religious influences......but Islam isn't stupid and nor does it play by the same rulebook that Christians play by.....Not globally and nor does its mainstream in the UK. Islam is wrapped up in group identity.

Name me the country in the world where Islam has fallen away?

You are an old fool who doesn't know their backside from their front.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2019 10.24pm)

Where there is a battle between your "God" and my "God" there will never be peace.

The battle between secularism and religion is only now being really joined. The push back against religious hypocrisy is growing. We are further forward in Europe than in the USA where I despair at how much influence the evangelicals still have.

So whilst you may well be right in that Islam has not yet been on the back foot anywhere that's because it has not yet been tested in a country like ours.

It won't be easy. It will take time. It needs us doing it together. It doesn't need the likes of "Robinson" stirring up hatred and making things worse without any forward plan of what comes next.

I will leave others to consider the merits of your personal remarks.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Because I believe in Britain. I believe that our way, our culture and sense of fairness will eventually triumph over any other system which promotes counter values. It just takes time and the determination to ensure that all our citizens are exposed to our values and see for themselves the values of them. That requires effort from us all to ensure opportunity, inclusion and acceptance when successful. Seeking to demonise a whole section of our society, even those within it who are peaceful and want nothing more than a better life for themselves and their families, just makes things worse. It drives such people into the arms of the radicals and not into ours. Which is the primary reason I reject the approach of "Robinson".

Britain and British culture is a reflection of the influences brought to bear on it.

That will totally change through demographics and as a consequence, at the ballot box, through media and commerce and all the other religious and cultural soup that immigrants bring with them.

The way of life you know will dissolve into the past as Northern Europeans are replaced and all that will happen much quicker than you imagine

Wake up man.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Jul 19 12.05pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Britain and British culture is a reflection of the influences brought to bear on it.

That will totally change through demographics and as a consequence, at the ballot box, through media and commerce and all the other religious and cultural soup that immigrants bring with them.

The way of life you know will dissolve into the past as Northern Europeans are replaced and all that will happen much quicker than you imagine

Wake up man.

This kind of reasoning I find very puzzling. Why on earth will "Northern Europeans" be replaced? We are not going to become sterile are we? I realise that the proportion of those of asian descent will increase but not to the level you suggest. Take a look at this report which concludes that the likely proportion of British Muslims won't ever reach 10%, let alone 50%.

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What you post might be the urban "truth" that circulates among fans of "Robinson" but it doesn't mean it is true. It's in fact, quite literally, an urban myth.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (14 Jul 2019 12.08pm)

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This kind of reasoning I find very puzzling. Why on earth will "Northern Europeans" be replaced? We are not going to become sterile are we? I realise that the proportion of those of asian descent will increase but not to the level you suggest. Take a look at this report which concludes that the likely proportion of British Muslims won't ever reach 10%, let alone 50%.

[Link]

What you post might be the urban "truth" that circulates among fans of "Robinson" but it doesn't mean it is true. It's in fact, quite literally, an urban myth.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (14 Jul 2019 12.08pm)

I think you're on shaky ground citing Channel 4 as an unbiased umpire in this matter.

 


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Originally posted by Mapletree

You don’t have to reply. You don’t have to have the last word. Get over it. Maybe answer my point about Stephen's self interest in keeping ‘Tommy’ in the media at all costs. He’s on a winner there, isn’t he?

I didn't think you'd defend that but you decide to put the responsibility on me Maple? I ask a guy to stop replying to me and he ignores me and that's ok?.....Ok, I'll continue to ask him to stop replying to me a few more times.

Are you seriously trying to make a point about Robinson being in this for the money? Seriously? I mean have you actually thought about that Maple?

There are several problems with your view. He was doing this for years before he became well known for one. Secondly, the state and anti Robinson activists have unethically shut all other methods of him making money down....along with the lies about him and the threats and actual assaults.....All of which is disgusting.

He represents a pushback against a vision for this country that people like yourself have.....which is probably why you have double standards for him.

I hope he makes millions just on that score and the more hate and injustice he gets the more money he and his family deserve.


Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2019 12.43pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Jul 19 12.26pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Where there is a battle between your "God" and my "God" there will never be peace.

The battle between secularism and religion is only now being really joined. The push back against religious hypocrisy is growing. We are further forward in Europe than in the USA where I despair at how much influence the evangelicals still have.

So whilst you may well be right in that Islam has not yet been on the back foot anywhere that's because it has not yet been tested in a country like ours.

It won't be easy. It will take time. It needs us doing it together. It doesn't need the likes of "Robinson" stirring up hatred and making things worse without any forward plan of what comes next.

I will leave others to consider the merits of your personal remarks.

Stop replying to me. I don't wish to communicate with you.

 


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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I think you're on shaky ground citing Channel 4 as an unbiased umpire in this matter.

The good thing is that we get the census in 2021.

Also the report says....based upon guesses that the Islamic birth rate is going to drop from 3 to 2.5 by 2030 yet.....magically it seems the 1.8 rate from non Muslims doesn't drop.

I find that very shaky indeed.....I could see a slowdown but it's across the board and the cultural differences mean that.....assuming everything stays as it is that Islamic couples will continue to breed at higher rates.

They are clutching at straws and presenting best case scenarios.

Anyway the 2021 census will be the next piece of evidence.


Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2019 12.41pm)

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This kind of reasoning I find very puzzling. Why on earth will "Northern Europeans" be replaced? We are not going to become sterile are we? I realise that the proportion of those of asian descent will increase but not to the level you suggest. Take a look at this report which concludes that the likely proportion of British Muslims won't ever reach 10%, let alone 50%.

[Link]

What you post might be the urban "truth" that circulates among fans of "Robinson" but it doesn't mean it is true. It's in fact, quite literally, an urban myth.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (14 Jul 2019 12.08pm)

You are just wrong about this.

This is simply about numbers.

There are many more non Europeans/British than others. Something like 10 to 1 in the coming century or so.

Our birth rate is not sufficient to sustain our population whereas other groups are currently high enough to increase theirs rapidly.

We do not need to be sterile or anything close to be out bread and at an accelerating rate.

The only thing that could preserve our genes, heritage, and culture is to form separate areas where only Britons lived and bred.

Can you see that happening in your channel 4 world?

This is not 'urban truth' old chap, this is an easily demonstrable reality.

Do you recall the Neanderthal Culture?

No, nor does anyone else.

They were here for many thousands of years and were simply outnumbered by migrants in a relatively short time.

I shan't be posting again until tonight so think about this before wading in with a token rebuff.

 

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