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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 06 Aug 23 10.21am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
This again. In addition to electing competent politicians it's our responsibility to ensure they're honest as well. If they prove not to be then it's our fault. It’s not our fault. It’s democracy. It’s also our responsibility and opportunity every time we vote.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Aug 23 10.31am |
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
I might just add that the best we can do is make decisions at the time for ourselves and family. I did that. All the unlawful restrictions I ignored. No stupid social distancing, masks. I went where I wanted to go - and most importantly no jabs. So we can fight over this and that. I never got ill neither did anyone I know. So it doesn't matter what you say. You can't make me do any of those things (you didn't ). You might like to get the army or Police in numbers to do it. But you wouldn't be capable of stopping me individually. Lol Freedom forever. Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 9.29am) On what basis were they unlawful? Are you above the law? So you refused the jab. Like others posting here. Maybe you were infected without knowing it. Maybe you could have got seriously Ill because you weren’t protected and required, as a consequence, hospital resources which were needed for others. People like you are, partly, responsible for today’s waiting lists and the excess death rates being seen. Excess death rates which are being blamed by those who caused them on the vaccines they refused. Pfizer are irresponsible?
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| Mattconrov 06 Aug 23 10.42am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
On what basis were they unlawful? Are you above the law? So you refused the jab. Like others posting here. Maybe you were infected without knowing it. Maybe you could have got seriously Ill because you weren’t protected and required, as a consequence, hospital resources which were needed for others. People like you are, partly, responsible for today’s waiting lists and the excess death rates being seen. Excess death rates which are being blamed by those who caused them on the vaccines they refused. Pfizer are irresponsible? They were not laws but guidelines. Even Matt Hancock admitted to them not Being law. Common law ursurps what they did anyway.Yes I am sometimes above the law if it's being used in an unlawful way. Lol Like I said I'm done on this thread. Because we both have different beliefs on the subject and it's a waste of time. I'm happy for you to believe whatever you want. Let's assume everything you say there is correct. I stand by what I did in all good faith and have no regrets. I'm certainly not going to get involved in a slanging match. I started posting on holmesdale because after enjoying reading comments I felt compelled to contribute. But this one's run its course.
Good luck and a good day. Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 10.45am) Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 10.57am)
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Teddy Eagle  06 Aug 23 11.04am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It’s not our fault. It’s democracy. It’s also our responsibility and opportunity every time we vote. It's democracy for the minute in which you're casting your vote.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Aug 23 11.04am |
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
They were not laws but guidelines. Even Matt Hancock admitted to them not Being law. Common law ursurps what they did anyway.Yes I am sometimes above the law if it's being used in an unlawful way. Lol Like I said I'm done on this thread. Because we both have different beliefs on the subject and it's a waste of time. I'm happy for you to believe whatever you want. Let's assume everything you say there is correct. I stand by what I did in all good faith and have no regrets. I'm certainly not going to get involved in a slanging match. I started posting on holmesdale because after enjoying reading comments I felt compelled to contribute. But this one's run its course.
Good luck and a good day. Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 10.45am) Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 10.57am) Many were required by law. Ask Mr Johnson about that! Mask wearing was a legal requirement as was testing. Holding gatherings was unlawful. So you are factually wrong. Think about that!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Aug 23 11.07am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It's democracy for the minute in which you're casting your vote. And for every minute until the next time! That’s the way it is in our parliamentary democracy. Imperfect but preferable.
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| Mattconrov 06 Aug 23 11.09am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Many were required by law. Ask Mr Johnson about that! Mask wearing was a legal requirement as was testing. Holding gatherings was unlawful. So you are factually wrong. Think about that! When Matt Hancock was sorting out his but on the side. He claimed not to have broken any laws. They were his own guidelines. Look it up. But again I refer you to common law of the land. This is the oath that police swear to the public. Under common law this restrictions were unlawful I noticed that during the "pandemic" BLM marches and gatherings were allowed to happen. With the police actively joining in. However when pro freedom anti covid restriction protesters did the same. The police got very heavy handed. Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 11.11am) Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 11.30am)
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| Teddy Eagle 06 Aug 23 11.10am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
And for every minute until the next time! That’s the way it is in our parliamentary democracy. Imperfect but preferable. No it isn't. Between elections we have to accept everything they say and do,including accepting them being economical with the truth since it's in our best interests.
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| eaglesdare 06 Aug 23 11.11am |
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
I'm done. Like I said on my previous message. I made my own mind up over this in 2020 and I haven't changed my mind since. Good day to you Sir. Fair play to you. I like yourself made an informed decision based on the facts and science or lack there of at the time. I don't regret not taking it. And I'm sure you are the same. I have not met one person who regretted not taking it but I have met a lot of people who regret taking it. They came to their senses at least and did not take the booster. It seems to be a pandemic of the vaccinated at the moment. A friend of mine was very healthy and went on daily runs etc...then took the vax. Now he can barely do any exercise. He only got it because his gf forced him to get it so they could travel. Really sad.
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| Mattconrov 06 Aug 23 11.15am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Fair play to you. I like yourself made an informed decision based on the facts and science or lack there of at the time. I don't regret not taking it. And I'm sure you are the same. I have not met one person who regretted not taking it but I have met a lot of people who regret taking it. They came to their senses at least and did not take the booster. It seems to be a pandemic of the vaccinated at the moment. A friend of mine was very healthy and went on daily runs etc...then took the vax. Now he can barely do any exercise. He only got it because his gf forced him to get it so they could travel. Really sad.
Maybe it's difficult to be 100 percent sure what causes peoples problems. But if someone has just recently taken a medical intervention and then got ill. I think it's only right to question it. Others such as big pharma and the government wish for those people to go away. But we will not stay silent.
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| Teddy Eagle 06 Aug 23 11.16am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Fair play to you. I like yourself made an informed decision based on the facts and science or lack there of at the time. I don't regret not taking it. And I'm sure you are the same. I have not met one person who regretted not taking it but I have met a lot of people who regret taking it. They came to their senses at least and did not take the booster. It seems to be a pandemic of the vaccinated at the moment. A friend of mine was very healthy and went on daily runs etc...then took the vax. Now he can barely do any exercise. He only got it because his gf forced him to get it so they could travel. Really sad. That is sad. Being able to go abroad was the only reason I got the boosters since we were told travel would be very difficult without them. Got the app showing dates, etc and have never had to show it once.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Aug 23 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
When Matt Hancock was sorting out his but on the side. He claimed not to have broken any laws. They were his own guidelines. Look it up. But again I refer you to common law of the land. This is the oath that police swear to the public. Under common law this restrictions were unlawful I noticed that during the "pandemic" BLM marches and gatherings were allowed to happen. With the police actively joining in. However when pro freedom anti covid restriction protesters did the same. The police got very heavy handed. Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 11.11am) Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 11.30am) If Hancock made that claim he was as wrong as you are. Common law is overridden by statute law. The oath in England given by a serving police officer is:- "I (name) ...of (police force)... do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the King in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law." Police forces always use discretion when deciding how to apply the law, maintain the peace and achieve all the objectives above.
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