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Matov 13 Jun 20 6.08pm | |
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We are all being played here. Utterly convinced of it. BLM are horrendous. Their stated aims are simply beyond comprehension. Destroy the traditional family structure, abolish the Police and dismantle capitalism. All stated in plain sight. No nuance, no attempt to hide behind platitudes. Now none of those institutions are beyond criticism and all should be able to cope with changes and modifications but the combination of all 3 is what enables stable societies to functions. Ones that mean an African American male in the US lives decades longer than his counterparts back in Africa. Essentially the Western model of society is the best ever invented. No ifs or buts about that. Yes plenty of flaws and it should be adaptable but why the hell would you want to destabilise it? What is the end game here? BLM is being funded to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds. It is having senior politicians not only kneeling down to it but also enabling it to thrive. And for what? To eulogize the death of a criminal thug? Allow that as an excuse for looting and murder? Why? What the f*** is going on? Today means the entire narrative changes. From now on it will be big nasty whitey who is in the frame. Every time some BLM violence happens, London today will be bought up in the 'whataboutery'. With today's events choreographed to the hilt. And the MSN will go hard on it. Last week left me fuming. And it was clearly designed to do so because it sparked a reaction today in London but even so, those faces on the TV today were straight out of central casting. Worked a treat for whoever is behind the scene manipulating this. Or perhaps this is just collective Lockdown madness? A 21st-century form of cabin fever induced by COVID-19? What is clear is that a lot of white people currently hate a lot of other white people. I admit it. I loathe the Antifa types and the knee-benders and all the usual woke w***ers. Detest them with a passion. Not actually bothered or overly worried about other races. Who gains from turning us against each other? And that is not a rhetorical question either. Genuinely puzzled. Because I don't see the end game here unless it is about starting some form of racial apartheid with us working-class whites effectively reduced to the status of living in servitude. Won't get rid of us because we tend to obey the law, work hard and pay our taxes but justify their metaphorical foots on our necks because of supposedly historical grievances. Essentially collective guilt for whites but everybody else gets, quite literally if BLM get their way, a get out of jail free card. And let us not forget that we already have a two-tier system of justice in place already via the 'hate' legislation. This is not around the corner, this is the reality now. Because all I see now is a Left that has zero investment in improving black lives. All of the poorest concentrations of black people in the Western World are almost all in areas that the Left control. They have it in their power to make things better for them but choose not to. Because they need violence on the streets. Basic rules of any revolutionary movement. Capture the streets first then worry about the ballot box next. We have a Tory Government. With an 80 seat majority. And even Johnson is pandering to them. Something is utterly f***ed.
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Spiderman Horsham 13 Jun 20 6.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I know full well that Obama wasn't universally popular. I have enough American friends to understand that. That wasn't the point I was making, which wasn't actually my point anyway. It was in the article, as was the one about Trump, which wasn't about slavery. It was about how racism grew and remains deeply embedded in US society. With an anti -Trump narrative, as per normal
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Spiderman Horsham 13 Jun 20 6.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That in single cultural societies racial differences tend not to be present. Cornwall?
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Spiderman Horsham 13 Jun 20 6.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Old Chap
Sense? From the Daily Mail? Yawn! Still the Guardian whose founder was in favour of the slave trade, that’s another matter, right?
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cryrst The garden of England 13 Jun 20 6.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
You seem to to think because of my question I have a particular axe to grind (I of course could be wrong but reading between the lines sometimes is difficult). I like most people have a view but I asked that of Holf because I had a genuine interest about what his response would be. Well my view is that racism has different levels of seriousness like any crime. Where those lines are,would be determined by whom? All racism is totally wrong but before going at me like a wild thing, just think about what I wrote.
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Spiderman Horsham 13 Jun 20 6.16pm | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
As I’ve said before Loads whine on here about ‘leftist thugs’ Not exclusive chaps. Thugs be everywhere Not according to the main stream media, left = peaceful protests, right = thugs
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Spiderman Horsham 13 Jun 20 6.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Shame, some really excellent speeches in a lovely park setting full of socially distanced families. A few coppers bored in the corners, free water being handed out. Cracking performance by BLM, seemed well organised and I am now a real fan. You don’t surprise us. Everyone on here has stated the action of the Police Officer was outrageous. Do you, in your heart of hearts, agree with the BLM activist interviewed on Talkradio?
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Belmont 13 Jun 20 6.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
We are all being played here. Utterly convinced of it. BLM are horrendous. Their stated aims are simply beyond comprehension. Destroy the traditional family structure, abolish the Police and dismantle capitalism. All stated in plain sight. No nuance, no attempt to hide behind platitudes. Now none of those institutions are beyond criticism and all should be able to cope with changes and modifications but the combination of all 3 is what enables stable societies to functions. Ones that mean an African American male in the US lives decades longer than his counterparts back in Africa. Essentially the Western model of society is the best ever invented. No ifs or buts about that. Yes plenty of flaws and it should be adaptable but why the hell would you want to destabilise it? What is the end game here? BLM is being funded to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds. It is having senior politicians not only kneeling down to it but also enabling it to thrive. And for what? To eulogize the death of a criminal thug? Allow that as an excuse for looting and murder? Why? What the f*** is going on? Today means the entire narrative changes. From now on it will be big nasty whitey who is in the frame. Every time some BLM violence happens, London today will be bought up in the 'whataboutery'. With today's events choreographed to the hilt. And the MSN will go hard on it. Last week left me fuming. And it was clearly designed to do so because it sparked a reaction today in London but even so, those faces on the TV today were straight out of central casting. Worked a treat for whoever is behind the scene manipulating this. Or perhaps this is just collective Lockdown madness? A 21st-century form of cabin fever induced by COVID-19? What is clear is that a lot of white people currently hate a lot of other white people. I admit it. I loathe the Antifa types and the knee-benders and all the usual woke w***ers. Detest them with a passion. Not actually bothered or overly worried about other races. Who gains from turning us against each other? And that is not a rhetorical question either. Genuinely puzzled. Because I don't see the end game here unless it is about starting some form of racial apartheid with us working-class whites effectively reduced to the status of living in servitude. Won't get rid of us because we tend to obey the law, work hard and pay our taxes but justify their metaphorical foots on our necks because of supposedly historical grievances. Essentially collective guilt for whites but everybody else gets, quite literally if BLM get their way, a get out of jail free card. And let us not forget that we already have a two-tier system of justice in place already via the 'hate' legislation. This is not around the corner, this is the reality now. Because all I see now is a Left that has zero investment in improving black lives. All of the poorest concentrations of black people in the Western World are almost all in areas that the Left control. They have it in their power to make things better for them but choose not to. Because they need violence on the streets. Basic rules of any revolutionary movement. Capture the streets first then worry about the ballot box next. We have a Tory Government. With an 80 seat majority. And even Johnson is pandering to them. Something is utterly f***ed. How do you actually know that, western civilisation was forced on large parts of the world because they had a more effective way of subjugating people i.e the gun, if other countries had been left alone how do you know that other models of society wouldn't have been better?
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Stirlingsays 13 Jun 20 6.24pm | |
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cryrst The garden of England 13 Jun 20 6.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Shame, some really excellent speeches in a lovely park setting full of socially distanced families. A few coppers bored in the corners, free water being handed out. Cracking performance by BLM, seemed well organised and I am now a real fan. Is that the same blm who are throwing stones and attacking the police during an illegal protest in Paris. No it cant be they are all pacifists. Must be skin heads who black faced to get blm to look bad. Strange how in france the left wing government banned it. Might not fully trust them to be peaceful like you do.
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Stirlingsays 13 Jun 20 6.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
How do you actually know that, western civilisation was forced on large parts of the world because they had a more effective way of subjugating people i.e the gun, if other countries had been left alone how do you know that other models of society wouldn't have been better? They have ruled themselves for generations. Where are these better models?
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 13 Jun 20 6.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Not according to the main stream media, left = peaceful protests, right = thugs Yeah lots of censoring of footage from the police clashes last week. Also any group with ‘Football’ in their name will increase stereotypical assumptions of hooliganism Also, correct me if I’m wrong here, but most fighty England fans are probably not ‘leftys’. I can see why police presence is more concentrated and active. All that said, I don’t disagree that on the surface it’s don’t engage with the left / engage with the right - but maybe they hadn’t topped up enough for what, to your point, they’d assume to be a relatively trouble free protest? In which case I buy the logic of not sending in non-TSG heavies to combat thuggery - that only ends badly. Also a bit of it is optics - headlines with police fighting black protesters would not be ideal Finally - I’d assume even though the ‘leftys’ were calling for their people not to protest today to avoid clashes, if I were the police commissioner I’d be taking that with a pinch of salt and this time tooling up not just for the right, but for the potential clash between the two That’s probably why they’re more keen to engage today. Also it seems like they’re targeting the police specifically this time, whereas the ‘lefty’s’ were mainly targeting inanimate objects and property
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