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| steve1984 27 Dec 18 11.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
....and there are plenty of intelligent people digging holes in construction anyway. and shouldn't these people be doing something more economically valuable?
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 Stirlingsays  27 Dec 18 11.47pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
My own experiences aren't born out by this statement. Based on my experience and surely yours we depend on bringing people in to dig spuds for example. Not for permanent residency we don't. If they can't pay enough I'll happily do without the English spuds.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Dec 18 11.50pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
and shouldn't these people be doing something more economically valuable? Not everyone is middle class with options and opportunities flying around them...the middle classes hoard them all...... and some people just like construction.....making a living building/maintaining/repairing useful stuff.
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| steve1984 27 Dec 18 11.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Not for permanent residency we don't. If they can't pay enough I'll happily do without the English spuds. So metaphorically at least your willing to starve for what you believe in. That's great as long as you don't impose your beliefs on people who would prefer to eat.
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| steve1984 27 Dec 18 11.52pm | |
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Blimey class? How quaint. No perhaps not but most intelligent people aspire to better things. Denying them that opportunity isn't something I like much.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Dec 18 11.53pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
So metaphorically at least your willing to starve for what you believe in. That's great as long as you don't impose your beliefs on people who would prefer to eat. Talk about exaggeration. 52 to 48 is not imposing it's democracy....The opposite has been imposed on me for decades and I doubt you gave a damn.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Dec 18 11.57pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Blimey class? How quaint. No perhaps not but most intelligent people aspire to better things. Denying them that opportunity isn't something I like much. There's a lot of money in construction....it's not a small industry. The importing of foreigners has certainly hurt the wages of many British people who work within that particular industry for sure.....and indeed discouraged many from joining it who might have.
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| steve1984 28 Dec 18 12.01am | |
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So having finally reached a point when we both agreed that we've all been shafted by our politicians and that we at least have something we can both get equally pissed off about, you revert to calling out the perceived difference in our social status and fall back on the irrelevance that keeps us from presenting a common face to a common enemy. I don't give a crap about Brexit. You won. We should leave without a deal. No idea if we will. Probably not. And then...
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| steve1984 28 Dec 18 12.03am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Talk about exaggeration. Talk about melodrama more like.
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| steve1984 28 Dec 18 12.05am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There's a lot of money in construction....it's not a small industry.
There's a bit more to construction than just digging holes. You went from hole digging to house building not me.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Dec 18 12.07am |
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Originally posted by steve1984
So having finally reached a point when we both agreed that we've all been shafted by our politicians and that we at least have something we can both get equally pissed off about, you revert to calling out the perceived difference in our social status and fall back on the irrelevance that keeps us from presenting a common face to a common enemy. I don't give a crap about Brexit. You won. We should leave without a deal. No idea if we will. Probably not. And then... I wasn't trying to be personal. I was just stating the reality of the differences in opportunities that exist for different social classes in response to your question. I believe in meritocracy I just don't like rigged meritocracy and we all know that's how it works....it's impossible to end without doing more damage than good....but it's a moral point to make I suppose.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Dec 18 12.09am |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Talk about melodrama more like.
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