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Worth a watch. Note the store front with "Vienna Bolognas & Sausages" written on it. This's where the saying "A load of old baloney" comes from. Bologna sausage is a b******ised version of Italian mortadella, sold alongside all the other imported meat products in the US.

Did you know that pastrami was originally made by Romanian immigrants? Made from cured, air dried and smoked lamb / mutton. The Americans started making it from beef brisket.

Shame Wisbech is such a way from Bristol or I'd invite you over for one of my Reuben sandwiches. 9 ounces of home made salt beef griddled on my wife's rye with home made sauerkraut, russian dressing and local cheese. I think you'd probably like it.

So your saying that it's the ultimate in political short-termism. Can't fault your logic there. Does that mean I don't have to read the book? I've got a load of stuff I want to get through at the moment.

This is why I get frustrated with a lot of the debate here. People automatically assuming that I'm a leftie because I don't see immigration itself as the problem. Yes it causes problems, of couse it does and we'll have to deal with them somehow. But immigration is a symptom, the illness is our political and economic system. You can lock out the immigrants but that won't cure the disease.

He wouldn't like it as he's a philistine but I would and I live much closer

Of course they aren't but as the leavers keep reminding us remainers quite justifiably, you don't have to be a racist to decide that we've had enough of immigration.

but then logically people who still think we'd be better off remaining might also prefer less immigration.

Edited by steve1984 (27 Dec 2018 10.05pm)

Not sure how old you are but like many people I grew up in the 70s and 80s when those lovely people the IRA often used to commit atrocities. I wouldn't allow what they did to change my values. I wouldn't want them to win in that way. But how other people react I can't say.

Sadly however I guess some people might have thought that stopping EU freedom of movement would alleviate the risk of "islamic" terrorism. Even though that risk is almost entirely from outside the EU.