I'm surprised that Campbell thought they would answer the questions straight. That's an incredibly nieave comment to make.

The Pfzier guy would have been one of their best at doing what he did. Is John completely unaware of Pfzier crimes of the past.

The Pfzier guy got through it. That's the remit. They have no shame. Reminds me of a Fillybuster in USA.

" You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.

Personally I can see the bar was not set very high for these "vaccines with regards to safety. Maybe that was the government's fault.

I understand your points that Pfzier were not asked to make a "vaccine " specifically to stop transmission.

Their president stated that the "vaccine is a critical tool on stopping transmission.That was on June 8th. If that were true then the guy at the hearing never backed it up with any proof that it stopped transmission.

As you can see I've understood your points. Do you see mine?

At the time of the jab rollout. This country was pushing hard for people to be jabbed. This was predicated on the idea that if everyone took it we could go back to normal. The fact that they didn't even know if it stopped transmission is horrendous. People who took the jab were lulled into false sense of security. The fact is they never needed a vaccine for what was basically the flu with a 99 percent plus survival rate.

The real crime is why anyone under 30 took it. Check the figures out for people dying from covid under 30. Don't bother, there isn't any. So kids were made to take it based on the lie they would protect their gran. These very same kids in some cases are now disabled or dead.

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" You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.

I might just add that the best we can do is make decisions at the time for ourselves and family. I did that. All the unlawful restrictions I ignored. No stupid social distancing, masks. I went where I wanted to go - and most importantly no jabs.

So we can fight over this and that. I never got ill neither did anyone I know.

So it doesn't matter what you say. You can't make me do any of those things (you didn't ). You might like to get the army or Police in numbers to do it. But you wouldn't be capable of stopping me individually. Lol

Freedom forever.

Edited by Mattconrov (06 Aug 2023 9.29am)

" You're not laughing now are you". Nigel Farage 2016.

Pfizer are the world’s largest pharmaceutical company. Pharmaceutical companies are businesses that make money, so when public health is concerned need careful regulation.

None of that is questioned. Pfizer have been fined in the past for overstepping the line, which ought to indicate that the regulations work.

The C19 vaccine development was done at speed but under complete regulatory supervision. Looking back at aspects of that now and asking “when did you stop beating your wife” type questions are the tactics of ignorant bullies with their own agenda to push. How can anyone give a straight answer to a twisted question?

I have looked for a video of the whole proceedings of that committee but cannot find it. I have though found details on the Senator asking those questions and on another who asked similar loaded questions later. They are both climate change deniers and the first is an anti-vaccine conspirator with a bit of a history.

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You won’t find that out from Campbell!!!!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

When that statement was made it would have been true, simply because it’s logical that it would. If you stop people getting it they cannot infect others. That’s unrelated to any requirement to run tests to establish precise figures. They weren’t required because it wasn’t the point of the vaccines, it was an obvious consequence. Then the variants emerged which bypassed the vaccine, allowed non symptomatic infections but were still restrained in their ability to induce severe disease. So the statement needed updating. All of this is only being done to try to undermine confidence in the vaccines. Ask why anyone would want to do that and the real truth becomes clearer.

Continued protection against severe disease did enable us to reduce restrictions and get back to work. No-one was conned. They were kept informed as events evolved.

Whether children should have received it is a matter of fierce debate around the world with no clear consensus. There are valid arguments both for and against.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

This again. In addition to electing competent politicians it's our responsibility to ensure they're honest as well. If they prove not to be then it's our fault.