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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 30 Jan 24 6.15pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Are we really still doing this nonsense?

Is the ICJ also antisemitic?

The topic is the remaining anti semitism in Labour and it's supporter on here, keep up.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 30 Jan 24 6.23pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

David Cameron lauds the two state solution.
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"Britain is ready to bring forward the moment when it formally recognises a Palestinian state, the foreign secretary has suggested.
Lord Cameron said Palestinians had to be given a political horizon to encourage peace in the Middle East. (BBC website)

Let's hope there are some people still alive to inhabit this newly-formed state of razed buildings and wasteland.

The encourage peace bit is laughable when most Muslims would gladly cut the throat of every Jew !

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 30 Jan 24 6.24pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

The topic is the remaining anti semitism in Labour and it's supporter on here, keep up.

Ok, how could the Labour MP’s comments, which suggested there is a genocide taking place in Gaza, be considered anti semitic?

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 30 Jan 24 6.35pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Ok, how could the Labour MP’s comments, which suggested there is a genocide taking place in Gaza, be considered anti semitic?

Because any comment that does not parrot the IDF website is by definition anti semitism.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 30 Jan 24 8.10pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

A victory of abstract academia over reality there Stirling.

I just view it as what should be. I refuse to be ruled by the priorities of groups with different loyalties to this island....or undergo some sense of responsibility for an event we had nothing to do with.

Originally posted by silvertop

Holocaust Day is remembered as it is the closer to home, we have a large Jewish diaspora but an even larger Islamic diaspora who are innately antisemitic.

Excepting the anglophiles amongst them the rest can bugger off.


Originally posted by silvertop

You have inadvertently hit a nail on a head on the Soviet deaths.
It is ingrained in Russian belief (not entirely without justification) that Russia has suffered over and over again to protect the decadent West - whether that be against the Moguls, Napoleon or Hitler - but we have never registered that cost or given thanks to them for their enormous sacrifice.

Yep, the Soviet killed 4 out of 5 Germans in the war....however, I won't go into my opinions on the wisdom of helping communism beat Hitler only to lose Europe to anti nationalistic middle class egalitarians. So our grandchildren can speak Arabic instead of German.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 31 Jan 24 1.46am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Ok, how could the Labour MP’s comments, which suggested there is a genocide taking place in Gaza, be considered anti semitic?

She was suspended for this per the post

"Labour MP Kate Osamor has been suspended by her party after saying Gaza should be remembered as genocide in a post about Holocaust Memorial Day.

She wrote: "Tomorrow is Holocaust Memorial Day, an international day to remember the six million Jews murdered during the Holocaust, the millions of other people murdered under Nazi persecution of other groups and more recent genocides in Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia and now Gaza."

Nothing there about ICJ.

Clearly the Labour Party find her words unacceptable.

What she appears to have done is equate the ongoing fighting in Gaza with the Holocaust.

If you think that's reasonable then all views welcome.

Here's the BBC piece on what is a genocide

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Edited by HKOwen (31 Jan 2024 1.47am)

Edited by HKOwen (31 Jan 2024 8.37am)

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 31 Jan 24 8.43am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Because any comment that does not parrot the IDF website is by definition anti semitism.

So do you believe everything that comes of the Palestinian Health Authority.

Those in bold are your words/opinion

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 31 Jan 24 11.45am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Genocide is Genocide. The fact the UK is complicit and even supplying arms, whilst denying Aid, is just barbaric. The numbers (low or high-end) are unfathomable. The photos show devastation and human suffering. This can be stopped now. But it isn't.
That is the really offensive part to me.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 31 Jan 24 12.20pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

She was suspended for this per the post

"Labour MP Kate Osamor has been suspended by her party after saying Gaza should be remembered as genocide in a post about Holocaust Memorial Day.

She wrote: "Tomorrow is Holocaust Memorial Day, an international day to remember the six million Jews murdered during the Holocaust, the millions of other people murdered under Nazi persecution of other groups and more recent genocides in Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia and now Gaza."

Nothing there about ICJ.

Clearly the Labour Party find her words unacceptable.

What she appears to have done is equate the ongoing fighting in Gaza with the Holocaust.

If you think that's reasonable then all views welcome.

Here's the BBC piece on what is a genocide

[Link]

Edited by HKOwen (31 Jan 2024 1.47am)

Edited by HKOwen (31 Jan 2024 8.37am)

No, she hasn't - your whole approach is arguing semantics so a lazy summary like that is not going to do.


 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 31 Jan 24 1.24pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Genocide is Genocide. The fact the UK is complicit and even supplying arms, whilst denying Aid, is just barbaric. The numbers (low or high-end) are unfathomable. The photos show devastation and human suffering. This can be stopped now. But it isn't.
That is the really offensive part to me.

You would feel better if another country supplied Israel as if it weren’t us it would be someone else. When the aid providers are actively involved with the attacks then yes. Need to get their house in order. They knew about this as in Palestine ANRWA is Hamas

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 31 Jan 24 1.41pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You would feel better if another country supplied Israel as if it weren’t us it would be someone else. When the aid providers are actively involved with the attacks then yes. Need to get their house in order. They knew about this as in Palestine ANRWA is Hamas

There are unproven allegations (made by the Israelis) against 0.04% of the UNRWA staff.

The 12 staff members who have been accused have been suspended pending investigation.

How many Israeli’s have been suspended for their crimes?

You are, at best, an apologist for a genocide. At worst, you actively support it.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 31 Jan 24 7.25pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

There are unproven allegations (made by the Israelis) against 0.04% of the UNRWA staff.

The 12 staff members who have been accused have been suspended pending investigation.

How many Israeli’s have been suspended for their crimes?

You are, at best, an apologist for a genocide. At worst, you actively support it.

Your sum is good. 12 is the figure they know about, guaranteed it will rise but no amount would be enough to alter your antisemitism. How about 19 out of 1.5 billion for 9/11.
What % is that. Who’s is really the apologist and for which side if it’s a side your taking. The 9/11 bombers were after their target which is exactly as it will be in the future. US, you, me and yours. Get with the game EDN because no matter what you think the Palestinians want Hamas free and you gone.

 

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