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jeeagles Flag 31 Dec 20 1.23pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Perhaps the difference is the "Sell on the asset" bit as Parish has shown no sign of wanting to sell up and take his huge profit with him

Parish has done a fantastic job, but seems to have trust issues making it unlikely he'll relinquish control.

Now we seem to have two sets of decision makers with conflicting opinions leading to a diluted approach to growing the club which isn't ideal. But we need capital, and they are the people that have it.

I think we'd have a similar problem on the playing side if Roy was moved to a less hands on role.

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 31 Dec 20 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Still, could be worse I suppose, there are 10 teams lower than us out of 92!

One of which is Brighton with their attractive style of football and progressive manager.

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Dec 20 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

One of which is Brighton with their attractive style of football and progressive manager.

There you go you see, a chink of light amongst a pile of doggy doo.

 

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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 31 Dec 20 2.14pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

According to the Beeb's report:

"ALK managing director Alan Pace has replaced Mike Garlick as chairman...

'This marks a new era for Burnley as we become stewards of this historic football club,' said Pace.

The United States-based businessman said his aim was to "build on the impressive work" that Garlick and manager Sean Dyche have done to make Burnley a "financially stable, established Premier League club that is a cornerstone of the local community".

Pace, 53, added: "With a rich heritage, a brilliant academy and a passionate fanbase, this club has solid foundations to build upon. This is the start of an exciting journey for the entire Clarets family."

ALK has already stated its intention to help Dyche bolster his squad in next month's transfer window.

...

"This investment represents a natural progression for Burnley," said Garlick, who took over as sole chairman in 2015 after Banaszkiewicz stepped down from their dual role.

"In Alan Pace and his team, we are welcoming committed investors to Turf Moor who will be living here in the local community and investing in the club, both on and off the football pitch, for many years to come.

"My tenure as chairman has always been about ensuring Burnley is a sustainable football club and this investment provides a long-term plan to maintain that philosophy, while driving evolution and innovation."


If what is being said is basically true, then there would seem to be a greater commitment from Pace and his team than we are ever likely to see from our American investors.

I don't see ours so-called investors living in the local community etc.

There are only a certain number of seats on the PL gravy train. When you factor in the players, agents, managers there isn't any more seats for money makers. Unless you want to be involved as a plaything and take a hit financially, the PL isn't a place to put your money. Even harder for us as the stadium needs major refurbishment and haven't like the Spammers been thrown a bargain by the sports govt. Are there any billionaires living in Thornton Heath wishing to burn money ?

 


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Plaistow Eagle Flag 31 Dec 20 2.46pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

If you didn't have an intention to be chairman but ended up there, that means your probably the right person for the job.

St Georges Park and 3G pitches seem to be making a huge difference.

My brothers started coaching my nephews under 8s team. He hasn't played much football but was a very high level sportman and none of the other parents wanted to do it. The FA training course was excellent. He's used his own experience to set them up well for matches and they beating teams that often have better individuals.

He uses a handful of one or two word instructions so the kids know what they should be doing, but it should be their choice rather than "PlayStation" coaching. We've gone through a couple of decades of getting very well organised teams, it seems a lot of sports people are forgetting to think for themselves, they seem to forget that they are the ones that understand their own abilities best.

The kids all seem to enjoy it which is the main thing, a lot of people seem to forget its just children playing a game.

The only issue he's had with the FA is that they won't let a doctor parent be one of the recognised first aiders as they haven't done the FA course!

Mate

Good luck to your Brother and nephew.

As I mentioned some parent's are a nightmare and as you rightly say they forget it's just kids playing.

Some Dad's trying to "relive their careers" through their kids when some couldn't trap a bag of sand..!!

COYP

 

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Uphill Flag Bedford 31 Dec 20 3.16pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Getting back to the subject matter.

2020 has been an horrible year for most and a pretty poor one for Palace. A relegation battle is quite possible. Roy Hodgson has a long earned reputation for being a shrewd manager and coach but his reputation is now tarnished by his inability to inspire a reasonably talented, if aging, squad.

It was telling when he remarked after the Leicester game that Ray Lewington 'went apoplectic' at half time because of the team's poor first half performance.

Excuse me? Who is the manager?

His bewildering tactics, strange team selections and abysmally late substitutions indicate to me he has lost his grip on things. I have no doubt that many a manager (yes, even Eddie Howe or Thomas Franck) could do better and incentivise this team so that they play to their true and undoubted ability.

The complete lack of midfield creativity is down to him as he apparently believes that quality is not within his remit.

Any manager must have free rein to buy and sell players at his discretion. We will never get a replacement until Mr Parish gives that undertaking, within reason and subject to the club's financial situation.

Mr Hodgson should declare his intention to retire at the end of the season and give the new man, whoever it is, a chance to plan for the 2021/2 season. Be it still in the PL or in the Championship.

 

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southnorwoodhill Flag 31 Dec 20 3.24pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Getting back to the subject matter.

2020 has been an horrible year for most and a pretty poor one for Palace. A relegation battle is quite possible. Roy Hodgson has a long earned reputation for being a shrewd manager and coach but his reputation is now tarnished by his inability to inspire a reasonably talented, if aging, squad.

It was telling when he remarked after the Leicester game that Ray Lewington 'went apoplectic' at half time because of the team's poor first half performance.

Excuse me? Who is the manager?

His bewildering tactics, strange team selections and abysmally late substitutions indicate to me he has lost his grip on things. I have no doubt that many a manager (yes, even Eddie Howe or Thomas Franck) could do better and incentivise this team so that they play to their true and undoubted ability.

The complete lack of midfield creativity is down to him as he apparently believes that quality is not within his remit.

Any manager must have free rein to buy and sell players at his discretion. We will never get a replacement until Mr Parish gives that undertaking, within reason and subject to the club's financial situation.

Mr Hodgson should declare his intention to retire at the end of the season and give the new man, whoever it is, a chance to plan for the 2021/2 season. Be it still in the PL or in the Championship.

Good post. If I'm not mistaken the totally mediocre Kouyate and completely unimspiring McCarthy were brought in on his watch.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Dec 20 3.28pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Good post. If I'm not mistaken the totally mediocre Kouyate and completely unimspiring McCarthy were brought in on his watch.

Indeed they were bought on his watch, but the pair only cost a total of £13 Mill.

Kouyate has played both in midfield and central defence for us and I respectfully don't share your view about his overall contribution.Thank goodness he can play in central defence given our woes in this area!
McCarthy came to us having only played 7 games in the previous 2 seasons due to injury and we have not seen the best of him.

Edited by Willo (31 Dec 2020 3.41pm)

 

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jeeagles Flag 31 Dec 20 5.20pm

Originally posted by Painter

One of which is Brighton with their attractive style of football and progressive manager.

This attractive style of football argument is misleading.

No one is really calling for that.

What they are saying is the playing 3 holding midfielders is too defensive, playing 4-4-2 doesn't get the best out of the players we have, individuals performance except Zaha is pretty poor, and there is never a plan B.

 

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MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 31 Dec 20 5.40pm Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

This attractive style of football argument is misleading.

No one is really calling for that.

What they are saying is the playing 3 holding midfielders is too defensive, playing 4-4-2 doesn't get the best out of the players we have, individuals performance except Zaha is pretty poor, and there is never a plan B.

Totally agree. That style of football is not in our DNA. That experiment failed with FDB. As many have said we can barely string 2/3 passes together let alone total football approach. Just want to see some attacking intent. With two wingers if I’m being really indulgent.

 

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 31 Dec 20 10.16pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

9 games won in 2020. 33 goals scored.

Roy ball.

Edited by MonsterMunch (31 Dec 2020 10.48am)

In 2016 Pardew managed 27 pts from 37 games. Not suggesting Roy's figures are great but would be expected to keep us up extrapolated to a season. Not so sure about super Al's.

 

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Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 01 Jan 21 10.52am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

If we fail to get anything against a side at the bottom of the Premiership with only 2 points, he will be under extreme pressure!

I’m dreading Saturday as we seem to completely switch off against teams like Sheffield United when we should be taking them apart.

 

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