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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Dec 18 7.55pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

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Tawny Flag Croydon 21 Dec 18 8.03pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

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First Tony Blair throwing his weight behind remain, and now this. Okay, leave it is :-D.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Dec 18 8.05pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

First Tony Blair throwing his weight behind remain, and now this. Okay, leave it is :-D.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 21 Dec 18 8.27pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

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Looks like a photo for a gay dating website.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Dec 18 11.18pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

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Now, that's just one weird news story.

 


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steve1984 22 Dec 18 1.44am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'Justice' Whose justice is that Stevie boy? The side you agree with I suppose.

You suppose wrong, again.

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

My stripes don't change the moment I get off the plane/boat.

Neither mine but my perspective does.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Dec 18 8.28am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

You suppose wrong, again.


Yet you don't state it....how convenient.

Originally posted by steve1984

My stripes don't change the moment I get off the plane/boat.

Neither mine but my perspective does.

A distinction without a difference.

 


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steve1984 22 Dec 18 9.15am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yet you don't state it....how convenient.

I don't state what? You need the definition of justice? My opinion has nothing to do with justice.

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A distinction without a difference.

Wherever I am, I'm English. Everywhere I go I remain English. I arrived in Hungary in 1996 as an Englishman and when I left in 2013 I was still English.

But I'm not your definition of English. That is true. I'm inordinately proud to say I'm a very different Englishman to you.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Dec 18 9.36am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984


I don't state what? You need the definition of justice? My opinion has nothing to do with justice.

You were the one to first ask me about justice amid the realities on the ground, and now you seem to complain when I expose how simplistic the implication was once I've turned the question around.....I explained, while you chose to keep your counsel.

Originally posted by steve1984

Wherever I am, I'm English. Everywhere I go I remain English. I arrived in Hungary in 1996 as an Englishman and when I left in 2013 I was still English.

But I'm not your definition of English. That is true. I'm inordinately proud to say I'm a very different Englishman to you.

On this we can certainly agree.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Dec 2018 9.37am)

 


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steve1984 22 Dec 18 9.49am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


You were the one to first ask me about justice amid the realities on the ground, and now you seem to complain when I expose how simplistic the implication was once I've turned the question around.....I explained, while you chose to keep your counsel.

Yes you explained that Justice is a quaint concept and that in reality might always wins over right.

You then qualified your statement by saying that I'm only interested in justice that conforms to my opinion of right or wrong.

I prefer to debate by sharing my ideas and then listening to yours. You seem to prefer telling me what my ideas are before sharing your own.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Dec 18 9.59am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

Yes you explained that Justice is a quaint concept and that in reality might always wins over right.

You then qualified your statement by saying that I'm only interested in justice that conforms to my opinion of right or wrong.

I prefer to debate by sharing my ideas and then listening to yours. You seem to prefer telling me what my ideas are before sharing your own.

Thanks for the summary and the non sharing of your ideas.

 


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steve1984 22 Dec 18 2.05pm

In short if you have little or no faith in justice then I guess it's no wonder that you're so far right.

Of course you're right that might nearly always triumphs.

But I still believe it's worth fighting for justice for those without power.

Which doesn't alter the fact that I think you're right The Crimea has been Russian for a long time. It was only "given" to the Ukraine by some President of the USSR fairly recently.

 

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