I travelled to Europe on an aircraft, a couple of months ago, there was NO mandatory requirement to wear a face covering on the aircrafts and all the passengers I saw were not wearing a mask.
Same situation for members of my family who recently visited Spain.

I am certainly NOT spending a significant amount of money, travelling to and from Australia with a mask attached to my face.

Edited by Willo (11 Aug 2022 3.09pm)

If you have to change the definition of a vaccine to call them vaccines then they are not vaccines. If they do not protect you from getting a disease or transmitting it they are not a vaccine. If the only way you can get them rolled out to the general populace is via "emergency use authorisation" and trials are still ongoing then they are experimental by definition.

We are now running at about 18% excess mortality and the increases in mortality correlates directly with booster rollouts but the only thing it cannot be (and cannot even be discussed) is the spike protein shots that are being injected into your bloodstream.

The spike protein is the very thing (in the Coronavirus) that supposedly makes you sick in various ways and for some reason they decided to inject it into your arm.

Injecting children and being ignorant of the contents of the vaccines and the risks to their health this is nothing short of child abuse.

By the way, most 3rd world countries have hardly noticed this "pandemic" other than the governments health measures or where they have been significantly "jabbed".

By the way, you are a one-eyed moron not worthy to debate with.

However, for others on this site. From March 2022.

The COVID-19 death toll has been four times higher in lower-income countries than in rich ones, according to a new report published today by Oxfam on behalf of the People’s Vaccine Alliance as the world marks two years since the World Health Organization declared the pandemic.

While the pandemic has been devastating for rich countries like the US and the UK, the world’s poorest countries have been hardest hit, with women and children bearing a disproportionate burden. Lack of testing and reporting means that very large numbers of deaths due to COVID-19 go unreported, especially in the poorest countries. Modelling using measures of excess deaths estimates that 19.6 million people have died because of COVID-19, over three times the official death toll. Based on this analysis, Oxfam calculated that for every death in a high-income country, an estimated four other people have died in a low or lower-middle income country. On a per capita basis, deaths in low and lower middle-income countries are 31 percent higher than high income countries.

Just for an outsider's (am I? I'm going with it) perspective here, I think that statement (bold) does have value however is also quite ironic.

I do like the N&P section however I have noticed the balance has now more often drifted far from independent thought and intelligent assertions/hypotheses to what very much seems like copy and paste 'opinions' or theories merely echoing those on fringes and often accompanied with 'facts', 'shares' of online posts, so on and so forth and always from dubious (at best) sources. Some far more guilty than others and some examples more extreme than others of course.

I do scratch the noggin' as to what's going on. I wonder what some posters are trying to achieve? Are they trying to push an argument as they themselves know what they read, hear/are told etc. cannot be proven absolutely, therefore they want others to cave and say "You know what, you are absolutely right and have proved it, let's all accept this as truth, praise you and get on board"???

Perhaps it's just me, I do like the pub setting, 'putting the world to rights' chats however reading these threads is less like that and more akin to a debate between politicians (poor ones) where you wonder if you're the only person struggling to get a grip on any coherent narrative from either side or believe/buy in to what is being promoted? I have factored in my own evident idiocy and ignorance to such thoughts! More like a soap opera on here, a very predictable one, than a football forum!

C'est la vie! I'll duck out for now.

An old but still valid exuse.

How cowardly is that? Risk our children so I am protected. Pretty selfish to be honest! Get you vax and wear you mask by all means. But dont risk the lives of our children on something they do not need.

my 90 year old grand mother who is unvaxxed loves hugging her unvaccinated children.

I am the same I will not fly anywhere where those useless masks are a requirement for a plane, public transport, shops or even out in the open.

I infact refused to wear a mask all the way through the "pandemic"