Exactly what are you categorising as "experimental medical interventions"? I trust not the vaccines, or you will be guilty of spreading conspiracy theories of the type which are costing many people's lives in Third World countries.

I wouldn't ask for sympathy from you in any circumstances. I have rarely known anyone less empathetic, let alone sympathetic. You think you know everything about subjects you know nothing about. All you do is repost discredited nonsense from the internet. A source of much misinformation.

My children and grandchildren have all been vaccinated. They are sensible and all perfectly fine. A friend has just had a double heart bye-pass, was in ICU but now back on the ward. The hospitals are under pressure but still functioning.

There's nothing "going on". People like you need to stop spreading these stories, as if they mean anything. There will be things we learn as the impact of Covid itself becomes better understood. To try to attribute them to the vaccines is simply irresponsible.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

My family in Australia have been respectfully imploring me and my dear wife to visit them 'Down Under' towards the end of this year during the period when there are no PL games on account of the World Cup.

Having discovered that the wearing of face coverings on some (Perhaps many) airlines is still mandatory, that this applies to any carrier entering Australia and that coverings are still required on public transport etc in "Oz" my wife and I have decided not to make the journey.

Edited by Willo (11 Aug 2022 10.38am)

I was just having this discussion with my missus. We're both agreed that we won't go anywhere with any restrictions/ any requirements. If countries wish to continue taking the piss, they're not getting our business.

Red and Blue Army!

That's an old excuse.

The whole point about vaccinating children was not to protect them. They weren't vulnerable. It was to protect their vulnerable grannies and grandads. With the most recent virus variations meaning that the vaccinations protect against severe disease, but not against infection (my wife has caught it twice this year already) the emphasis has shifted to ensuring everyone vulnerable gets vaccinated. As things change, so must we. The decision at the time was wise, in the light of what we knew then.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I recently flew from London to Thailand with Thai Airways who currently have a mandatory face mask policy. The number of people actually wearing them could be counted on the fingers of one hand, and the crew made no attempt to enforce the rule.

Different story within Thailand though, where people wear masks at all times other than when eating or drinking, even though the guidance is to wear them in crowded indoor places ....

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An old but still valid exuse.

How cowardly is that? Risk our children so I am protected. Pretty selfish to be honest! Get you vax and wear you mask by all means. But dont risk the lives of our children on something they do not need.

my 90 year old grand mother who is unvaxxed loves hugging her unvaccinated children.