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More BS. I am describing facts. Not propaganda. You have the monopoly on that here.

My wife is abroad in a country which has been frightened by the negativity over vaccination spread by people like you. As a result many of the elderly and vulnerable remain unvaccinated despite the efforts of government and the WHO.

The people read the stupidity in the social media and because it originated in the USA think it must be true.

My wife is fine. Anyone she infects may not be.

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I won’t specify which country because that’s personal. Additionally the record keeping there is both extremely inaccurate and often politically manipulated. I have lived there for several years. Looking at the official numbers is meaningless..

The vaccines, plus her first infection earlier this year, seem to mean this one has resulted in almost no symptoms at all. Just a sniffle. It is a crowded country in which many generations share the same space. Elderly, unvaccinated, are therefore at greater risk of infection by her. Deaths from Covid complications go unrecorded. Many deaths, and births, go unrecorded. The official population stats are well short of the truth. Many people are off the record and don’t officially exist. There is no income tax. It’s only on purchases and Companies.

You guarantee nothing because you know nothing. You simply believe things which aren’t true and extrapolate data in ways which suit a predetermined view.

Of course there will always be exceptions if you search for them. There will always be people seeking attention by being controversial. There will always be people seeking to monetise fear and ignorance. There will always be the gullible who believe them.

The important thing is to look at the big picture and weigh the balance of risk against benefit.

If I was selected to play as a striker for Palace eventually I would score. Just by being in the right place or via a deflection.

That doesn’t mean they ought to sign me.

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Most people in your situation will be, because the diseases have been nearly wiped out by vaccination.

You benefit from the actions of others. Unless you get very unlucky. Which you could. Rather you than me.

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Yeah OK, but it is probably thanks to the vast majority being vaccinated for previously common deadly deseases that you are here.

Remember that many people fell victim to Tuberculosis, Small Pox, Diptheria, Hooping Cough, Tetanus and so on, before innoculations were available.

The COVID vaccines are controversial because of the speed of production, the types of vaccination and people's growing mistrust of big pharma.
It doesn't help that the possible side effects that have become apparent are well publicised.

I have become concerned about the amout of medical emergencies at football grounds that seemingly no one wants to talk about. I don't remember any happening at televised matches before the last couple of seasons. Is there a connection to the vaccines or COVID itself? No one is saying. Perhaps someone can explain it.

I am as suseptable to this stuff as the next man but the principle of vaccines cannot be thrown out the window on that basis.
I'm 58, I have had two jabs and COVID was a doddle when I got it.
Did the jabs help? Who knows but I have suffered no ill effects from the jabs that I'm aware of.

Right now, I have a virus that has made me far more unwell the COVID with increased heart rate, sweats, sinus pain, nasty cough, conjunctivitis, and general lack of energy. I'm a week into it.

This indicates a success for the vaccines, not a failure.

You, of course, prefer to present it the other way.

Hopeless!

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Not in any way. The best decision was taken at the time to deal with the situation that existed then.

Our knowledge grows. Things change. When they do, our response changes.

It's not a big deal.

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