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dannyboy1978 Flag 20 Dec 18 12.16pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

True

So how long do you think it will take to turn the whole thing around, get more Nurses into the system and prevent the outflow?

Before answering, take a look at how many people there are currently studying nursing, how large the shortfall is, current staff turnover and how many places are actually available to study in the UK.

Edited by Mapletree (20 Dec 2018 11.11am)

Funny how people don't come to the UK to be police officers which requires less training than being a nurse

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Dec 18 12.39pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Funny how people don't come to the UK to be police officers which requires less training than being a nurse

Some of them would still be thick as sh1t no matter how much training.

 


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chateauferret Flag 20 Dec 18 3.16pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Funny how people don't come to the UK to be police officers which requires less training than being a nurse

Like many public service jobs around sensitive or security areas this one has nationality requirements.

 


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chateauferret Flag 20 Dec 18 3.22pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

It would be helpful if employers offered the support. In Germany there are very well regarded qualifications earned on the job, we are rubbish at that.

But be careful which Degrees you write off. I was at a lecture where an IBM recruiter said their favoured Degrees were Classical Studies, Philosophy and Theology. We have to remember that Education is not Training. The well-educated tend to take to training far better because they have learned different ways of thinking.

Those are very broad subjects as well as established parts of the University offering (well the former would be if it included that most esoteric of disciplines: Greek prose), and were't the sort of thing I was meaning. I was more thinking that a first degree in say call centre operation or sports journalism would be of little value because the base of learning underpinning the specialism was too narrow. They would make sense as one-year masters' or diploma courses on top of a relevant batchelor's degree and used to be offered as such.

 


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W12 20 Dec 18 3.53pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Living life isn’t free. These things cost. Substitute those brand names in your shopping, the food thrown out or those unnecessary takeaways for a few pounds in extra direct taxes. Even a lot of people struggling can make cut backs on non essential purchases and those who really are in need I feel for because others are allowed to play and milk the system. I suppose the eventual outcome will be survival of the healthiest/physically able if this is left to carry on.


How many nurses would this pay for?

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 20 Dec 18 3.59pm

What I want to know regarding losing freedom of movement is who's going to wash my f@cking car?

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Dec 18 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

How many nurses would this pay for?

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My wife is a staff nurse and she says that she spends half of her time nursing and the other half filling in copious amounts of paperwork in order to reduce the likelihood of litigation

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 20 Dec 18 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

What I want to know regarding losing freedom of movement is who's going to wash my f@cking car?

Bob-a-job?

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Dec 18 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Living life isn’t free. These things cost. Substitute those brand names in your shopping, the food thrown out or those unnecessary takeaways for a few pounds in extra direct taxes. Even a lot of people struggling can make cut backs on non essential purchases and those who really are in need I feel for because others are allowed to play and milk the system. I suppose the eventual outcome will be survival of the healthiest/physically able if this is left to carry on.

The BBC interviewed a woman last week who claimed to have three jobs yet still needed to visit foodbanks as she couldn't make ends meet.

She was being interviewed walking along the pavement holding a lighted cigarette

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Dec 18 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

What I want to know regarding losing freedom of movement is who's going to wash my f@cking car?

Your car has a sex life?

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 20 Dec 18 4.55pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

My wife is a staff nurse and she says that she spends half of her time nursing and the other half filling in copious amounts of paperwork in order to reduce the likelihood of litigation

None of that nonsense when Hattie Jacques was Matron.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 20 Dec 18 5.01pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

None of that nonsense when Hattie Jacques was Matron.

I thought at one time the government was going to introduce a no fault compensation scheme. It takes years to settle these cases and the only people who get rich are the lawyers on both sides. It would be better to just agree someone has lost a leg or brain damage and compensate for their loss based on a formula. I think that's how the criminal compensation scheme works my mate got 18k when he was run over and broke his leg.

 


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