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silvertop Flag Portishead 03 Jun 21 1.32pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Yeah this seems most likely to me. But that’s why we have to ensure the prospective manager is not just a glamour appointment but coming in as part of a project. It really is no good bringing a Nuno in & throwing a load of money at it, only for Mendes and himself to down tools on the eve of future transfer windows.

I know I’m in a minority when it comes to this but on the basis of what we’re supposedly setting out to do this summer, my 2 preferred candidates are absolutely the Championship managers. Preferably Ismaël for a number of reasons including how early Cooper is in his career. But I still think that despite the vitriol, Cooper could be a very good appointment for the club in our project to progress the club. He’s a highly rated young British manager who has an excellent record with youth and has done a very good job at his current employer.

Yes. The down on him by some on here is odd.

I suspect he will get the gig as a second choice thanks to ancelotti.

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 03 Jun 21 1.39pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Yeah this seems most likely to me. But that’s why we have to ensure the prospective manager is not just a glamour appointment but coming in as part of a project. It really is no good bringing a Nuno in & throwing a load of money at it, only for Mendes and himself to down tools on the eve of future transfer windows.

I know I’m in a minority when it comes to this but on the basis of what we’re supposedly setting out to do this summer, my 2 preferred candidates are absolutely the Championship managers. Preferably Ismaël for a number of reasons including how early Cooper is in his career. But I still think that despite the vitriol, Cooper could be a very good appointment for the club in our project to progress the club. He’s a highly rated young British manager who has an excellent record with youth and has done a very good job at his current employer.

I think there's a lot of logic in that approach.

If things go well then I see no reason why Cooper or Ishmael would be any more likely to be loyal to us if a bigger job comes along than a big name coach would be.

It's when things get tough (which they surely will from time to time) that we get the benefits of appointing Cooper or Ishamel.

Nuno, Benetiz et al can throw the towel in when they can't spend their way out of a corner at Palace, knowing they have enough standing in the game that failing at Palace won't count against them. They will tell the media that it's an impossible job with so little money, the media will agree because they are well-known managers, and they remain considered a top-level coach.

Cooper and Ishmael have no such safety net. If they fail at Palace they probably don't get another go at the top flight in England, or certainly not soon anyway. I like that about them, on top of the obvious strengths they have (making a little go a long way, youth development etc), they will have the hunger to establish themselves.

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 03 Jun 21 1.46pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I think there's a lot of logic in that approach.

If things go well then I see no reason why Cooper or Ishmael would be any more likely to be loyal to us if a bigger job comes along than a big name coach would be.

It's when things get tough (which they surely will from time to time) that we get the benefits of appointing Cooper or Ishamel.

Nuno, Benetiz et al can throw the towel in when they can't spend their way out of a corner at Palace, knowing they have enough standing in the game that failing at Palace won't count against them. They will tell the media that it's an impossible job with so little money, the media will agree because they are well-known managers, and they remain considered a top-level coach.

Cooper and Ishmael have no such safety net. If they fail at Palace they probably don't get another go at the top flight in England, or certainly not soon anyway. I like that about them, on top of the obvious strengths they have (making a little go a long way, youth development etc), they will have the hunger to establish themselves.


This sums it up for me. WE need a manager who NEEDS to succeed at Palace for their own career development. It will take (say) 3 years with a club like ours for such a person to prove to bigger clubs that they are genuine candidates to be considered for a bigger post.

 

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Mstrobez Flag 03 Jun 21 2.01pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


This sums it up for me. WE need a manager who NEEDS to succeed at Palace for their own career development. It will take (say) 3 years with a club like ours for such a person to prove to bigger clubs that they are genuine candidates to be considered for a bigger post.

And moreover what people seem to be neglecting about Ismaël particularly is that his record at his 2 previous clubs is excellent. You really can’t understate his achievements. If people are turned off by the Premier League experience thing then fine. But if a manager of Ismaëls pedigree, playing the style of football he does, on the budget he does, getting the results he does, had Premier League experience - then he’d be out of our league as a candidate anyway.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Jun 21 2.24pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

And moreover what people seem to be neglecting about Ismaël particularly is that his record at his 2 previous clubs is excellent. You really can’t understate his achievements. If people are turned off by the Premier League experience thing then fine. But if a manager of Ismaëls pedigree, playing the style of football he does, on the budget he does, getting the results he does, had Premier League experience - then he’d be out of our league as a candidate anyway.

Yep. I have a feeling he will go on to have a very successful managerial career, I would like the next step to be with us, unfortunately I am not sure our owners are willing to take the risk. Barnsley seem to have an uncanny knack of unearthing good young managers from Austria/Germany. Another reason why you need a good scouting network in place abroad.

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Jefroc Flag Crete 03 Jun 21 2.25pm Send a Private Message to Jefroc Add Jefroc as a friend

When the dust has settled and the pundits and us fans have had their say.... it will be Dyche. I feel it in my water and so must now dash!!!!!

 


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Croydon-Trucker Flag 03 Jun 21 3.06pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by Jefroc

When the dust has settled and the pundits and us fans have had their say.... it will be Dyche. I feel it in my water and so must now dash!!!!!

I truley do hope so and put the seat down .

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Jun 21 3.13pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by babylonjohn

Yup its impressive how some clubs seem to plan ahead isnt it.

Inter Milan have appointed Simone Inzaghi as manager to replace Antonio Conte, who left the club last week

Real Madrid appointed Ancelloti to replace Zinedine Zidane who also left last week.

Wolves are about to appoint Bruno Lage to replace Nuno Espirito Santo who left less than a week ago

Palace who had a couple of months (at least) notice that they would need to replace Roy Hodgson have allegedly interviewed half a dozen people several times and still don't seem to have a scooby who to appoint.

Indecisive or what?

 

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Croydon-Trucker Flag 03 Jun 21 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Inter Milan have appointed Simone Inzaghi as manager to replace Antonio Conte, who left the club last week

Real Madrid appointed Ancelloti to replace Zinedine Zidane who also left last week.

Wolves are about to appoint Bruno Lage to replace Nuno Espirito Santo who left less than a week ago

Palace who had a couple of months (at least) notice that they would need to replace Roy Hodgson have allegedly interviewed half a dozen people several times and still don't seem to have a scooby who to appoint.

Indecisive or what?


Yep . At this rate we will be starting next seeason managerless .. but on the plus side they have opened talks with Joel Ward for a new contract .

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Jun 21 3.30pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

on the plus side they have opened talks with Joel Ward for a new contract .

As manager?

 

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Putitout Flag Oxford 03 Jun 21 3.31pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Inter Milan have appointed Simone Inzaghi as manager to replace Antonio Conte, who left the club last week

Real Madrid appointed Ancelloti to replace Zinedine Zidane who also left last week.

Wolves are about to appoint Bruno Lage to replace Nuno Espirito Santo who left less than a week ago

Palace who had a couple of months (at least) notice that they would need to replace Roy Hodgson have allegedly interviewed half a dozen people several times and still don't seem to have a scooby who to appoint.

Indecisive or what?

It’s getting harder and harder to be at all positive about what’s not happening with this.
Is the standard that poor? Or is the standard so high we just are stuck for choice.? Or is it as simple as nobody they want, wants it.?
Clubs talk to prospective managers all the time,. It’s pretty obvious with the contract situation, going on for months, feelers should have been out months back, even to those still in work, testing if at the seasons end there would be a chance.
Like everyone else I just hope they make a stunningly interesting disclosure shortly. As long as it ain’t Dougie, as caretaker whilst we carryon looking.


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 03 Jun 21 3.37pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Inter Milan have appointed Simone Inzaghi as manager to replace Antonio Conte, who left the club last week

Real Madrid appointed Ancelloti to replace Zinedine Zidane who also left last week.

Wolves are about to appoint Bruno Lage to replace Nuno Espirito Santo who left less than a week ago

Palace who had a couple of months (at least) notice that they would need to replace Roy Hodgson have allegedly interviewed half a dozen people several times and still don't seem to have a scooby who to appoint.

Indecisive or what?

Think he might come to us?

 


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