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  Hrolf The Ganger  17 Dec 18 5.09pm |
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Sad to see the usual suspects still trying to rationalise another vote. How brain dead and deluded are you people? What if you lose again? Will you want another one just in case there were a few things left that the public wasn't clear about. Or maybe you think that Brexit is such a mess that we should just have another vote because that will fix it? Are you nuts? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (17 Dec 2018 5.10pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Dec 18 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
"Another vote which would do irreparable damage to our politics. Because, it would say to millions who trusted in our democracy that our democracy does not deliver." Theresa May earlier today Is there anyone here who really thinks that our democracy delivers? Really how does May square that with her governments contempt of parliament, the first ever and only a week ago.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 17 Dec 18 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Really how does May square that with her governments contempt of parliament, the first ever and only a week ago. she should have resigned at that point, and I am afraid, called an election but today's right wing is totally morally bankrupt.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Dec 18 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
"Another vote which would do irreparable damage to our politics. Because, it would say to millions who trusted in our democracy that our democracy does not deliver." Theresa May earlier today Is there anyone here who really thinks that our democracy delivers?
There are plenty of flaws with democracy.....it's a s***e sandwich but I certainly don't want China's system....Libertarianism sees a lot more people starving in the streets....Communism and Fascism end up with piles of bones....What else? Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Dec 2018 5.23pm)
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 17 Dec 18 5.23pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Can you please keep your childish jibes away from this thread please and if you have nothing constructive to add please don't add anything The iron fist in the iron glove. Top modding.
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| Mapletree Croydon 17 Dec 18 5.31pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Sad to see the usual suspects still trying to rationalise another vote. How brain dead and deluded are you people? What if you lose again? Will you want another one just in case there were a few things left that the public wasn't clear about. Or maybe you think that Brexit is such a mess that we should just have another vote because that will fix it? Are you nuts? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (17 Dec 2018 5.10pm) You have such a way with words. If there is a groundswell of opinion for a People's Vote, sufficient that it stands a reasonable chance of success, automatically it is something that should happen. Otherwise it is not at all clear that Government is following the will of the people. If then it is clear that the people overall have not changed their minds and they do want Brexit, that is an end to it. Currently there is no clarity. Automatically it is an end to it as once out, re-entering the EU would be almost impossible and the terms we would be given would be dreadful. And currently it is Brexiteers that are blocking May just as much as Remainers. I would be obliged for your view as to why so many MPs did not vote for Brexit, despite that weakening their roles in Parliament.
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| Mapletree Croydon 17 Dec 18 5.32pm |
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Well, he did say please twice
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| Stirlingsays 17 Dec 18 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You have such a way with words. If there is a groundswell of opinion for a People's Vote, sufficient that it stands a reasonable chance of success, automatically it is something that should happen. Otherwise it is not at all clear that Government is following the will of the people. If then it is clear that the people overall have not changed their minds and they do want Brexit, that is an end to it. Currently there is no clarity. Automatically it is an end to it as once out, re-entering the EU would be almost impossible and the terms we would be given would be dreadful. And currently it is Brexiteers that are blocking May just as much as Remainers. I would be obliged for your view as to why so many MPs did not vote for Brexit, despite that weakening their roles in Parliament. I do admire your endurance with this matter Maple.....I must admit....after ten minutes of Brexit.....my mind starts to turn to minces pies... I've bought some rather nice brandy cream which will go down a treat.
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| Mapletree Croydon 17 Dec 18 5.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I do admire your endurance with this matter Maple.....I must admit....after ten minutes of Brexit.....my mind starts to turn to minces pies... I've bought some rather nice brandy cream which will go down a treat. Hmm, shame you live out in the Ulu. I'd swop you a chocolate reindeer. I just had a look where Wisbech is, blimey it's off grid.
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| totoshkin East Grinstead 17 Dec 18 5.57pm |
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Democracy means you respect the result - end of! Answer may be to have a people' s commission made up of 500 randomly selected people to put some fresh options to Parliament. Right now they are stuck in concrete and there is no way to move it forward.
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| Mapletree Croydon 17 Dec 18 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by totoshkin
Democracy means you respect the result - end of! Answer may be to have a people' s commission made up of 500 randomly selected people to put some fresh options to Parliament. Right now they are stuck in concrete and there is no way to move it forward. No. Democracy means 'Strength of the Common People'. And if 'the common people' decide to have a vote of their own, that they jolly well shall have. The will of the people two years ago is simply a bit of old history.
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| totoshkin East Grinstead 17 Dec 18 6.17pm |
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Disagree. We had the vote and that was a mandate to our Parliament. If they will not agree away forward then hand it to the people to resolve but not via a referendum that politicians will take months to agree the question to be put. A people's commission to produce alternatives is surely worth considering. I believe a second referendum will cause national strife and lead to the rise of right wing
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