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 Stirlingsays  18 Jan 22 7.40pm |
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The guy who wants us in the EU writes, 'The whole system is set up against individual thought and independent action. We end up with sheep in the lobbies.' Double think.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Jan 22 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
It was a shot across the bow. The BBC know its possible so either change their snidey,left wing bias against hmg or it will happen. If the tories win in 2024 they will s*** a brick as 2027 is when the help ends. You are another who sees bias because you yourself are biased. As a centrist I can assure you their output is fair and balanced. Left-wingers complain every bit as much as you do. God help us all if we get another 5 years of this type of government. I am quite happy to see another Tory government provided it returns to a basis of morality and decency in government, but fear that is really unlikely.
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cryrst  The garden of England 18 Jan 22 7.47pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You are another who sees bias because you yourself are biased. As a centrist I can assure you their output is fair and balanced. Left-wingers complain every bit as much as you do. God help us all if we get another 5 years of this type of government. I am quite happy to see another Tory government provided it returns to a basis of morality and decency in government, but fear that is really unlikely. You won't if it's maggies conservatism.
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| cryrst The garden of England 18 Jan 22 7.49pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I realise that. The problem is we have a populist government with their backs to the wall. I don't trust them at all and think they are more than capable of doing stupid things just to keep themselves in power. Just look at the way Johnson treated the Tory dissenters over Brexit. Imagine what he might do with any BBC licence fee defenders who dared to threaten to vote against him. Or what local Parties might do when they have to select again. The whole system is set up against individual thought and independent action. We end up with sheep in the lobbies. Just look back at the mines closing and come again!!!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Jan 22 8.28pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The guy who wants us in the EU writes, 'The whole system is set up against individual thought and independent action. We end up with sheep in the lobbies.' Double think. Reading that you would think that being a member of the EU meant we no longer had a sovereign Parliament. The EU moves forward by agreement, not by diktat, on all important issues. The idea that we were ever going to be submersed in any kind of federal Europe, let alone that we already were, was always nonsense. Subsidiarity is often forgotten, but it's the vital principle underpinning what the EU does.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Jan 22 8.34pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
You won't if it's maggies conservatism. Why should Thatcher's brand of conservatism be real, and Heseltine's not be? They represented the two wings of the Tory Party, wings that have always existed. Both are real. I have always been on the Heseltine wing. We now have a government which is neither. Thatcher would be ashamed of Johnson. Despite her many faults she was a lady of principle and strong moral conviction.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 18 Jan 22 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's already both. I would increase and ring-fence them to stop any government playing the kind of political games we are now witnessing. This is what you wrong Jan 16 in your usual high handed " I know better than you " manner to Badger 11
No it isn't. It's a licence fee. Taxes are raised and SPENT by the government. The licence fee is spent by the BBC, independent of the government. That some of you don't like the output doesn't change that. Be careful what you wish for. One day you may have a left leaning government and be pleased that the BBC is independent of them.
Edited by HKOwen (18 Jan 2022 9.20pm) Edited by HKOwen (18 Jan 2022 9.20pm)
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| Stirlingsays 18 Jan 22 9.25pm |
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The only defenders of the BBC looking for no change are either on the left....as we see with the Labour party now.....or the neo liberals. That tells you everything you need to know. The BBC had its chance and threw it away..Those who genuinely loved the BBC should have been speaking up decades ago...I like many others will shed no tears on the inevitability of what's to come...whether in 2027 or later...on the right the die is now cast. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jan 2022 9.26pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 18 Jan 22 9.37pm |
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The current Chairman of the BBC is Tim Davie Davie won a scholarship to attend Whitgift School in Croydon, and studied English at Selwyn College, Cambridge. He became Vice-President for Marketing and Franchise at PepsiCo. Davie stood as a councillor for the Conservative Party in Hammersmith in 1993 and 1994[9] and was deputy chairman of the Hammersmith and Fulham Conservative party in the 1990s.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 18 Jan 22 9.51pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
The current Chairman of the BBC is Tim Davie Davie won a scholarship to attend Whitgift School in Croydon, and studied English at Selwyn College, Cambridge. He became Vice-President for Marketing and Franchise at PepsiCo. Davie stood as a councillor for the Conservative Party in Hammersmith in 1993 and 1994[9] and was deputy chairman of the Hammersmith and Fulham Conservative party in the 1990s. He's also on a salary of over 500K a year (The PM earns about 150K) & when he worked for PepsiCo his salary was around 250K a year.
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| Stirlingsays 18 Jan 22 9.55pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
The current Chairman of the BBC is Tim Davie Davie won a scholarship to attend Whitgift School in Croydon, and studied English at Selwyn College, Cambridge. He became Vice-President for Marketing and Franchise at PepsiCo. Davie stood as a councillor for the Conservative Party in Hammersmith in 1993 and 1994[9] and was deputy chairman of the Hammersmith and Fulham Conservative party in the 1990s. Davie is a Wisbech Eagle's 'conservative' and that isn't a conservative. They conserve nothing of traditional conservative values. They are only interested in conserving their bank account levels. I have nothing against fiscal common sense....however, that alone does not a conservative make. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jan 2022 9.56pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jan 22 10.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Reading that you would think that being a member of the EU meant we no longer had a sovereign Parliament. The EU moves forward by agreement, not by diktat, on all important issues. The idea that we were ever going to be submersed in any kind of federal Europe, let alone that we already were, was always nonsense. Subsidiarity is often forgotten, but it's the vital principle underpinning what the EU does. That just shows how incapable you are of seeing beyond your nose.
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