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 EverybodyDannsNow  SE19 13 Jan 24 12.16pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
It would entail more losses but Hamas needs to go. At the hands of Israel or the palestinians. I have no idea what you’re on about, and neither do you.
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cryrst  The garden of England 13 Jan 24 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I have no idea what you’re on about, and neither do you. Never mind.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 15 Jan 24 7.12am |
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Language is always loaded in conflict. I regularly see the Israel invasion headlined as "Israel Gaza war". To me, a war would be of similar strength adversaries. In most cases, such as this, it's a larger power exerting its authority over another. News from yesterday that more Palestinian civilians are killed by Israeli strikes in 'safe' areas.] "Ten people in a house sheltering two displaced families in Rafah were among 135 people killed in Israeli strikes over the past 24 hours, Hamas-run health ministry officials said." (BBC website)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 15 Jan 24 12.47pm |
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It’s not only Israel on trial. South Africa is testing the west’s claim to moral superiority. It's not only them in the dock over their 'live-streamed genocide' but those in the west who support or look away. The verdict if it goes against Israel, will be disregarded by them and the United States of course. Kissinger's unlamented death brought back memories of his diplomacy, namely bombing the crap out of any nation that happens to be in the way, some things never change.
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 georgenorman 15 Jan 24 1.01pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It’s not only Israel on trial. South Africa is testing the west’s claim to moral superiority. It's not only them in the dock over their 'live-streamed genocide' but those in the west who support or look away. The verdict if it goes against Israel, will be disregarded by them and the United States of course. Kissinger's unlamented death brought back memories of his diplomacy, namely bombing the crap out of any nation that happens to be in the way, some things never change.
Commie.
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 19 Jan 24 6.39am |
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Israel now rejecting the concept of a separate Palestinian State, once the conflict ends. In a news conference, a defiant Mr Netanyahu vowed to press on with the offensive in Gaza "until complete victory": the destruction of Hamas and return of the remaining Israeli hostages, adding that it could take "many more months".(BBC website) Netanyahu should be on trial for war crimes, in my opinion
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 21 Jan 24 1.21am |
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I can't help but feel that assassinations of Iranian top military, are being done by the USA, using Israel as a proxy.
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 21 Jan 24 9.06am |
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It is now obvious that Israel, with USA backing, is seeking to bring Iran into the conflict.
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| Stirlingsays 21 Jan 24 10.11am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
It is now obvious that Israel, with USA backing, is seeking to bring Iran into the conflict. The Biden administration is disastrous, however in this situation it wouldn't have mattered who had been in charge as both US parties work more for Israel than for their own citizens. It's a disaster for the west in general as we lose all influence in the Arab world. Personally I don't think the US are going to attack Iran and be a threat to the regime there purely because they are joined at the hip with Russia now. However we could see a significantly higher focus on Yemen. Israel are also making noises about going into Lebanon. Obviously none of us want any attacks here.....if these clowns could avoid that then that's the minimal ask. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jan 2024 10.14am)
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Jan 24 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It’s not only Israel on trial. South Africa is testing the west’s claim to moral superiority. It's not only them in the dock over their 'live-streamed genocide' but those in the west who support or look away. The verdict if it goes against Israel, will be disregarded by them and the United States of course. Kissinger's unlamented death brought back memories of his diplomacy, namely bombing the crap out of any nation that happens to be in the way, some things never change.
Sorry if no one gives one f*** about what South Africa thinks. If they can make a corrupt buck they think it - that's about it. They actually have more murders per year than killed Palestinians. As for rapes, I believe they're no longer reliable recorded.
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| silvertop Portishead 21 Jan 24 1.07pm |
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The chief rabii has written an article in the Sundays claiming the use of the word "genocide" in Gaza somehow under values the suffering and horror of the Holocaust. Unless international law prescribes that word to only apply after a certain threshold is reached (?) it doesn’t no matter how articulatey the argument is presented it is wrong. The holocaust, the great leap forward, stalins purge and other events where deaths left the scale were given their own titles as genocide simply didn't cover it. However, the real issue here is issue blindness. How can a man of God indirectly defend what is fast becoming a massacre of the innocents? The West, especially the US, represent an electorate that also thinks this way. Israel can do as it pleases. Any criticism is anti semitic. Even terming the remote bombing and deaths of thousands as genocide is somehow wrong and indirectly anti semitic. How can you forge an intelligent, balanced, international policy from such a wholly partial base?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 21 Jan 24 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
The chief rabii has written an article in the Sundays claiming the use of the word "genocide" in Gaza somehow under values the suffering and horror of the Holocaust. Unless international law prescribes that word to only apply after a certain threshold is reached (?) it doesn’t no matter how articulatey the argument is presented it is wrong. The holocaust, the great leap forward, stalins purge and other events where deaths left the scale were given their own titles as genocide simply didn't cover it. However, the real issue here is issue blindness. How can a man of God indirectly defend what is fast becoming a massacre of the innocents? The West, especially the US, represent an electorate that also thinks this way. Israel can do as it pleases. Any criticism is anti semitic. Even terming the remote bombing and deaths of thousands as genocide is somehow wrong and indirectly anti semitic. How can you forge an intelligent, balanced, international policy from such a wholly partial base? Yes and you are right except that imo it is not electorates it is governments, politicians, the electorate may have a totally different view, this is a crisis for western leaders who may be totally wrong, I think they are, it is a wholly partial base as you say. Theirs. 'Not in our name'.
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