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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jul 24 10.14pm
Originally posted by Matov All I do know, and this seems to be a view becoming more and more mainstream now by the minute, is that the rooftop from which this shot was fired should have been out-of-bounds. Key to this now not all spiralling out of control is how quickly they deal with this reality. No conspiracy theory involved in that. Just a very blatent, and very basic, negligence on the part of the people tasked with securing this event. Personally I think they need to get somebody else take over Trumps security ASAP because the people tasked to do it failed so dramatically today that it goes beyond a case of 'lessons will be learned.' I think that is what they told us the last 100 times. The doubt allows them to get away with it time after time. Is this a conspiracy? You will never know. Is it likely that someone could take a pot shot so easily? You decide.
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Originally posted by Matov

All I do know, and this seems to be a view becoming more and more mainstream now by the minute, is that the rooftop from which this shot was fired should have been out-of-bounds.

Key to this now not all spiralling out of control is how quickly they deal with this reality. No conspiracy theory involved in that. Just a very blatent, and very basic, negligence on the part of the people tasked with securing this event.

Personally I think they need to get somebody else take over Trumps security ASAP because the people tasked to do it failed so dramatically today that it goes beyond a case of 'lessons will be learned.'

I think that is what they told us the last 100 times.
The doubt allows them to get away with it time after time.

Is this a conspiracy? You will never know.

Is it likely that someone could take a pot shot so easily?

You decide.

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eaglesdare 14 Jul 24 10.15pm
A man was murdered. Others are in hospital and trump another man was almost murdered and certain people and a poster only cares about villifying trump. That should tell you all you need to know about those looney wokie lefties and their character and how they value democracy. If you don't have anything other than negative or ridiculous comments at this time best to stay silent.
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14 Jul 24 10.15pm

A man was murdered. Others are in hospital and trump another man was almost murdered and certain people and a poster only cares about villifying trump. That should tell you all you need to know about those looney wokie lefties and their character and how they value democracy.

If you don't have anything other than negative or ridiculous comments at this time best to stay silent.

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georgenorman 14 Jul 24 10.55pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No need. I have read it already. Just so others understand, I am neither speaking for this site nor the rest of the UK. I am speaking for myself and those who agree with me, who I believe comprise the majority here. Note. Not all and an opinion about the majority. There is a certain magnificence about your delusions!
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14 Jul 24 10.55pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No need. I have read it already.

Just so others understand, I am neither speaking for this site nor the rest of the UK. I am speaking for myself and those who agree with me, who I believe comprise the majority here. Note. Not all and an opinion about the majority.

There is a certain magnificence about your delusions!

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eaglesdare 14 Jul 24 11.01pm
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14 Jul 24 11.01pm

Some more headlines from MSM

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Houston Eagle Houston 14 Jul 24 11.25pm
Welcome to my world on a daily basis!! But as they will tell you….. they are right and you are wrong!! Period!!!
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Houston 14 Jul 24 11.25pm

Welcome to my world on a daily basis!!

But as they will tell you….. they are right and you are wrong!! Period!!!

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HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Jul 24 12.41am
Originally posted by georgenorman Have you no shame? This is an appalling thing to say but not surprising considering the poster. No comment about the innocent victim killed, but then the TDS victim probably thinks he was contributory to his own death by being there. Shame on WE Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 15 Jul 24 12.41am

Originally posted by georgenorman

Have you no shame?

This is an appalling thing to say but not surprising considering the poster.

No comment about the innocent victim killed, but then the TDS victim probably thinks he was contributory to his own death by being there.

Shame on WE

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 15 Jul 24 5.37am
The secret service needs investigating at best & I'm being extremely generous here it was incompetence [Link] Edited by Ouzo Dan (15 Jul 2024 5.38am) The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Behind you 15 Jul 24 5.37am

The secret service needs investigating at best & I'm being extremely generous here it was incompetence

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Edited by Ouzo Dan (15 Jul 2024 5.38am)

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 15 Jul 24 5.54am
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan The secret service needs investigating at best & I'm being extremely generous here it was incompetence [Link] Edited by Ouzo Dan (15 Jul 2024 5.38am) I think you are bang-on Ouzo. People were pointing out "there's a man on a roof with a rifle" to police, a minute or two before the shooting started. And if police snipers took him out moments later, why didn't they see him before anything had happened ? Let alone the rudimentary activities of checking out potential shooting/attacking locations, and having them secured, well before the rally started. I think any security people involved, will be feeling quite embarrassed and probably fearing for their jobs. I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

The secret service needs investigating at best & I'm being extremely generous here it was incompetence

[Link]

Edited by Ouzo Dan (15 Jul 2024 5.38am)

I think you are bang-on Ouzo. People were pointing out "there's a man on a roof with a rifle" to police, a minute or two before the shooting started.
And if police snipers took him out moments later, why didn't they see him before anything had happened ?

Let alone the rudimentary activities of checking out potential shooting/attacking locations, and having them secured, well before the rally started.

I think any security people involved, will be feeling quite embarrassed and probably fearing for their jobs.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 15 Jul 24 7.35am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly I think you are bang-on Ouzo. People were pointing out "there's a man on a roof with a rifle" to police, a minute or two before the shooting started. And if police snipers took him out moments later, why didn't they see him before anything had happened ? Let alone the rudimentary activities of checking out potential shooting/attacking locations, and having them secured, well before the rally started. I think any security people involved, will be feeling quite embarrassed and probably fearing for their jobs. My take on it The security detail is layered with the sniper team scanning an area well beyond the roof, when you hear the first shot you see the sniper lower his rifle to the general direction of the shooter. I personally use a 4-12x50 scope, looking through it you get an increasingly narrow view as you increase the magnification (4x through to 12x) if you're scanning an area say 250+ metres out you probably won't see the shooter however you're not always looking through the scope, snipers, hunters & trackers are all trained to spot changes in colour, camouflage is super effective until you move, the shooter crawling into position should have been enough to give him away. I'm assuming it was a mixture of national guard & Police who were responsible at the range of the shooter. How on earth someone wasn't on the bat phone telling Trumps security detail what was going on is beyond belief. The Secret service would have been prepping that area for weeks & would have identified & secured any potential vantage points to within a mile of the rally. How the f* they missed a ladder 140m out propped up on a building hidden behind a tree is again absolutely scandalous & my gut tells me it was intentionally ignored. Lastly you have the DEI hire taking cover behind Trump when it's literally her job to take a bullet. Whole thing is a s* show. Edited by Ouzo Dan (15 Jul 2024 7.37am) Attachment: 20240715_083503.jpg (64.35Kb) The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Behind you 15 Jul 24 7.35am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Let alone the rudimentary activities of checking out potential shooting/attacking locations, and having them secured, well before the rally started.

I think any security people involved, will be feeling quite embarrassed and probably fearing for their jobs.

My take on it

The security detail is layered with the sniper team scanning an area well beyond the roof, when you hear the first shot you see the sniper lower his rifle to the general direction of the shooter.
I personally use a 4-12x50 scope, looking through it you get an increasingly narrow view as you increase the magnification (4x through to 12x) if you're scanning an area say 250+ metres out you probably won't see the shooter however you're not always looking through the scope, snipers, hunters & trackers are all trained to spot changes in colour, camouflage is super effective until you move, the shooter crawling into position should have been enough to give him away.

I'm assuming it was a mixture of national guard & Police who were responsible at the range of the shooter.
How on earth someone wasn't on the bat phone telling Trumps security detail what was going on is beyond belief.

The Secret service would have been prepping that area for weeks & would have identified & secured any potential vantage points to within a mile of the rally.
How the f*** they missed a ladder 140m out propped up on a building hidden behind a tree is again absolutely scandalous & my gut tells me it was intentionally ignored.

Lastly you have the DEI hire taking cover behind Trump when it's literally her job to take a bullet.

Whole thing is a s*** show.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (15 Jul 2024 7.37am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 8.00am
Originally posted by georgenorman There is a certain magnificence about your delusions! Do you believe otherwise? Seriously? If so, whilst you are fully entitled to your opinion, I have another belief and that the delusion is yours alone. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 8.00am

Originally posted by georgenorman

There is a certain magnificence about your delusions!

Do you believe otherwise? Seriously?

If so, whilst you are fully entitled to your opinion, I have another belief and that the delusion is yours alone.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 8.07am
Originally posted by YT Leaving aside that you can't qualify a majority, I believe that the actual majority in this country will be those who are completely indifferent towards Trump or indeed anything else that happens in the USA. Edited by YT (14 Jul 2024 5.36pm) I disagree. If you discount the don’t knows and don’t cares then the vast majority of those who do have an opinion are, in mine, more likely to disapprove of Trump than approve. That’ls certainly my own experience because the only place in the UK I ever encounter him being defended is this echo chamber. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 8.07am

Originally posted by YT

Leaving aside that you can't qualify a majority, I believe that the actual majority in this country will be those who are completely indifferent towards Trump or indeed anything else that happens in the USA.

Edited by YT (14 Jul 2024 5.36pm)

I disagree.

If you discount the don’t knows and don’t cares then the vast majority of those who do have an opinion are, in mine, more likely to disapprove of Trump than approve. That’ls certainly my own experience because the only place in the UK I ever encounter him being defended is this echo chamber.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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YT Oxford 15 Jul 24 8.18am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I disagree. If you discount the don’t knows and don’t cares then the vast majority of those who do have an opinion are, in mine, more likely to disapprove of Trump than approve. That’ls certainly my own experience because the only place in the UK I ever encounter him being defended is this echo chamber. A nice bit of back-tracking. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 15 Jul 24 8.18am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I disagree.

A nice bit of back-tracking.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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