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tonymikejoe UK 16 Sep 23 6.13pm
Originally posted by PalaceYank We could argue all day about the refs decision, fact is the team put themselves in a position to allow the ref to decide their fate with their poor play the last 15. I do have a soft spot for this American attitude to 'sports'. We are always moaning on about "the referee!" "the lino!" "we had an injury!" but I think the American attitude is not to be so tolerant of excuses. For instance, why wasn't it one of our forwards breaking into their box and forcing a desperate last ditch sliding tackle? If we were doing that down their end we may have got a dodgy pen. We were hostages to fortune in this game and exposed ourselves to the consequences of a ropey decision. We have to be good enough to overcome the questionable decisions of the officials.
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tonymikejoe

UK 16 Sep 23 6.13pm

Originally posted by PalaceYank

We could argue all day about the refs decision, fact is the team put themselves in a position to allow the ref to decide their fate with their poor play the last 15.

I do have a soft spot for this American attitude to 'sports'.
We are always moaning on about "the referee!" "the lino!" "we had an injury!" but I think the American attitude is not to be so tolerant of excuses.
For instance, why wasn't it one of our forwards breaking into their box and forcing a desperate last ditch sliding tackle?
If we were doing that down their end we may have got a dodgy pen.
We were hostages to fortune in this game and exposed ourselves to the consequences of a ropey decision.
We have to be good enough to overcome the questionable decisions of the officials.

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Elpis In a pub 16 Sep 23 6.13pm
Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot But even more infuriating for me was why on earth the penalty wasn't retaken??... The 19 for Villa was at least 3 yards or so into the area before the ball was kicked. You have to ask yourself why has this not been picked up by VAR?? [Link] I was wrong earlier when I said the rules had changed . That came from being informed as such (by another ref) when I mentioned it during another game . Anyway Whats going on here is that the refs and linos are not penalising encroachment ,leaving such decisions up to VAR . VAR instruction (see link) says they dont penalise encroachment unless player becomes directly involved in play
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Elpis

In a pub 16 Sep 23 6.13pm

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

But even more infuriating for me was why on earth the penalty wasn't retaken??... The 19 for Villa was at least 3 yards or so into the area before the ball was kicked. You have to ask yourself why has this not been picked up by VAR??

[Link]

I was wrong earlier when I said the rules had changed . That came from being informed as such (by another ref) when I mentioned it during another game .

Anyway

Whats going on here is that the refs and linos are not penalising encroachment ,leaving such decisions up to VAR .
VAR instruction (see link) says they dont penalise encroachment unless player becomes directly involved in play

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 23 6.14pm
Incandescent with rage at surrendering all the points after being ahead until the 87th minute. My dear wife and I are abroad and made a reservation for a meal but alas it is now cancelled as she does not wish to be in my company due to my foul mood.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 23 6.14pm

Incandescent with rage at surrendering all the points after being ahead until the 87th minute.

My dear wife and I are abroad and made a reservation for a meal but alas it is now cancelled as she does not wish to be in my company due to my foul mood.

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Den1923 16 Sep 23 6.17pm
Originally posted by Willo Incandescent with rage at surrendering all the points after being ahead until the 87th minute. My dear wife and I are abroad and made a reservation for a meal but alas it is now cancelled as she does not wish to be in my company due to my foul mood. Never mind Willo, my own dear wife has decided to go off and play golf all day tomorrow as she too knows my mood will not brighten up until later in the day tomorrow. In the meantime enjoy your holiday!
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Den1923

16 Sep 23 6.17pm

Originally posted by Willo

Incandescent with rage at surrendering all the points after being ahead until the 87th minute.

My dear wife and I are abroad and made a reservation for a meal but alas it is now cancelled as she does not wish to be in my company due to my foul mood.

Never mind Willo, my own dear wife has decided to go off and play golf all day tomorrow as she too knows my mood will not brighten up until later in the day tomorrow. In the meantime enjoy your holiday!

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Sep 23 6.18pm
Oh dear Willo, you are going to have to make it up to the Memsaab, in a fashion, only you can conjure. As others, enjoy hollibobs. Edited by eagleman13 (16 Sep 2023 6.23pm) This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Sep 23 6.18pm

Oh dear Willo, you are going to have to make it up to the Memsaab, in a fashion, only you can conjure. As others, enjoy hollibobs.

Edited by eagleman13 (16 Sep 2023 6.23pm)

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 16 Sep 23 6.21pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad I thought it was a decent performance under the circumstances, i thought the back four played well, Richards had a good game, Doucoure and Hughes were excellent, at the end of the day they tired, before they got the first i couldn't see the scoring, but with a smallish squad, having Olise, Franca, Guehi, Lerma and then losing Ayew was a big blow, even so i thought we deserved at least a point. It’s a choker the way it ended, but I’m pleased that we put ourselves in with a chance of winning by having a bit of a go. We were competitive basically. I’ve hated those tergid away backs to the wall performances of the past when we just sit back watching the other team pass it around before they eventually break us down then it’s game over. I can cope with a bit of poor defending, iffy decisions and late goals as long as we have a bloody go during games
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monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 16 Sep 23 6.21pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I thought it was a decent performance under the circumstances, i thought the back four played well, Richards had a good game, Doucoure and Hughes were excellent, at the end of the day they tired, before they got the first i couldn't see the scoring, but with a smallish squad, having Olise, Franca, Guehi, Lerma and then losing Ayew was a big blow, even so i thought we deserved at least a point.

It’s a choker the way it ended, but I’m pleased that we put ourselves in with a chance of winning by having a bit of a go. We were competitive basically. I’ve hated those tergid away backs to the wall performances of the past when we just sit back watching the other team pass it around before they eventually break us down then it’s game over.

I can cope with a bit of poor defending, iffy decisions and late goals as long as we have a bloody go during games

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Eaglecoops CR3 16 Sep 23 6.30pm
I think solace can be taken in that we probably have exactly the number of points we might have expected after the games we have played.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 16 Sep 23 6.30pm

I think solace can be taken in that we probably have exactly the number of points we might have expected after the games we have played.

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Irisheagle87 Co.Derry 16 Sep 23 6.34pm
Originally posted by Willo Incandescent with rage at surrendering all the points after being ahead until the 87th minute. My dear wife and I are abroad and made a reservation for a meal but alas it is now cancelled as she does not wish to be in my company due to my foul mood. Go out and enjoy your meal willo! You would think a man like you would know by now what it's like to be palace. THE 17th OF MAY. MY 17th BIRTHDAY. MICHEAL HUGHES SCORES THE WINNING PENALTY, WHAT WAS HIS NUMBER? 17!!!!!
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Irisheagle87

Co.Derry 16 Sep 23 6.34pm

Originally posted by Willo

Incandescent with rage at surrendering all the points after being ahead until the 87th minute.

My dear wife and I are abroad and made a reservation for a meal but alas it is now cancelled as she does not wish to be in my company due to my foul mood.

Go out and enjoy your meal willo! You would think a man like you would know by now what it's like to be palace.

THE 17th OF MAY. MY 17th BIRTHDAY. MICHEAL HUGHES SCORES THE WINNING PENALTY, WHAT WAS HIS NUMBER? 17!!!!!

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Sep 23 6.35pm
Don't know about anybody else, but, i thought Ayew going off turned it Villa's way especially as Cash & McGinn exploited their left wing, our right, ie Wardy. It worked. Us going ahead so early in the 2nd half wasn't in the script, theirs & ours. Thought Richards played very well despite his 'jet-lag' coming back from the US. Didn't think Eze was 'at it' today had a few good moments but, also had a few bad. Edouard took his goal well & is now on 5? Who'dve thought. Mateta is growing in confidence & at times looks a real threat, long may that continue. Ayew going off is a concern & how will Johnstone respond to treatment? Also, don't forget we had a 'rookie' in the dugout, didn't do too bad imo. Some people are blaming(again) Mitchell for the 1st goal, maybe, but he didn't have any cover from Schlupp who i forgot was on the pitch. Doucoure does what he does & made a brilliant tackle/block. Hughes tired in second half but, was ok. Anyhoo, that's just my opinion of the match. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Sep 23 6.35pm

Don't know about anybody else, but, i thought Ayew going off turned it Villa's way especially as Cash & McGinn exploited their left wing, our right, ie Wardy. It worked. Us going ahead so early in the 2nd half wasn't in the script, theirs & ours. Thought Richards played very well despite his 'jet-lag' coming back from the US.

Didn't think Eze was 'at it' today had a few good moments but, also had a few bad. Edouard took his goal well & is now on 5? Who'dve thought. Mateta is growing in confidence & at times looks a real threat, long may that continue. Ayew going off is a concern & how will Johnstone respond to treatment?

Also, don't forget we had a 'rookie' in the dugout, didn't do too bad imo. Some people are blaming(again) Mitchell for the 1st goal, maybe, but he didn't have any cover from Schlupp who i forgot was on the pitch. Doucoure does what he does & made a brilliant tackle/block. Hughes tired in second half but, was ok.

Anyhoo, that's just my opinion of the match.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 16 Sep 23 6.38pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops I think solace can be taken in that we probably have exactly the number of points we might have expected after the games we have played. They did say if we won it would’ve been our best ever premier league start!! Obviously football didn’t exist before the premier league when we had better starts in 1979 and 1991
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monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 16 Sep 23 6.38pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I think solace can be taken in that we probably have exactly the number of points we might have expected after the games we have played.

They did say if we won it would’ve been our best ever premier league start!! Obviously football didn’t exist before the premier league when we had better starts in 1979 and 1991

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HesHereHesThere Beckenham 16 Sep 23 6.45pm
0-1 up with three minutes to go and lose 3-1….should be able to see that out. Melts.
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0-1 up with three minutes to go and lose 3-1….should be able to see that out. Melts.

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terryriker Newport Beach 16 Sep 23 7.04pm
My 5 thoughts on today’s loss 1) If Roy is on the touch line, we win this match. 2) Our squad depth is an issue, Ward at starting right back and Richards at back up center back will land us 14th. 3)Ayew’s grit was missed in the final 15 4) Eze wasn’t on the ball enough for me and when he was he was not as aggressive as I’d like. 5) Doucoure didn’t look himself with Lerma’s absence. Hughes had a good match but Cheick was sub par today.
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terryriker

Newport Beach 16 Sep 23 7.04pm

My 5 thoughts on today’s loss
1) If Roy is on the touch line, we win this match.
2) Our squad depth is an issue, Ward at starting right back and Richards at back up center back will land us 14th.
3)Ayew’s grit was missed in the final 15
4) Eze wasn’t on the ball enough for me and when he was he was not as aggressive as I’d like.
5) Doucoure didn’t look himself with Lerma’s absence. Hughes had a good match but Cheick was sub par today.

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