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esox lucius Deal 05 Nov 23 1.34pm
Arteta seems to be very selective about his complaints, no mention of the Havertz very wild “tackle” That would have been a red card 99% of the time.
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Deal 05 Nov 23 1.34pm

Arteta seems to be very selective about his complaints, no mention of the Havertz very wild “tackle” That would have been a red card 99% of the time.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Nov 23 1.39pm
Originally posted by Elpis Wolves were robbed , the Sheff utd player just stuck his leg into the defender and fell over . Refs are falling for this all the time ,the mystery of course is why is VAR not seeing it ? Wolves just don't seem to be getting the decisions. Have no idea why. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Nov 23 1.39pm

Originally posted by Elpis

Wolves were robbed , the Sheff utd player just stuck his leg into the defender and fell over .
Refs are falling for this all the time ,the mystery of course is why is VAR not seeing it ?

Wolves just don't seem to be getting the decisions. Have no idea why.

Red and Blue Army!

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steeleye20 Croydon 05 Nov 23 1.43pm
We can attribute our points tally in some part to the avoidance of VAR! It's bound to catch up with us, probably v. Liverpool. Is Royball an antidote to VAR? Certainly hope so.
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Croydon 05 Nov 23 1.43pm

We can attribute our points tally in some part to the avoidance of VAR!

It's bound to catch up with us, probably v. Liverpool.

Is Royball an antidote to VAR?

Certainly hope so.

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steeleye20 Croydon 05 Nov 23 1.46pm
Originally posted by esox lucius Arteta seems to be very selective about his complaints, no mention of the Havertz very wild “tackle” That would have been a red card 99% of the time. Had to be a red for Havertz, didn't it? At Newcastle clearly two hands pushing the back of the Arsenal player.
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steeleye20

Croydon 05 Nov 23 1.46pm

Originally posted by esox lucius

Arteta seems to be very selective about his complaints, no mention of the Havertz very wild “tackle” That would have been a red card 99% of the time.

Had to be a red for Havertz, didn't it?

At Newcastle clearly two hands pushing the back of the Arsenal player.

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Putitout Oxford 05 Nov 23 1.51pm
Originally posted by Willo In the final analysis the ball did NOT go over the line and it was abject defending by Arsenal in dealing with the cross. Well that’s the reasoning , but there was no accurate measurement as to whether that ball was out or not. Only a clear picture to indicate that possibly 1%of it might touch the line, and that too is a guess. It was a guess either way, surely that being the case benefit of reasonable doubt should be in the defenders favour and the ball thought to be out. The reasonable doubt in this shouldn’t favour the ref, it should not be a save face exercise for refs. This is becoming the biggest problem with VAR, though not the only one.
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Oxford 05 Nov 23 1.51pm

Originally posted by Willo

In the final analysis the ball did NOT go over the line and it was abject defending by Arsenal in dealing with the cross.

Well that’s the reasoning , but there was no accurate measurement as to whether that ball was out or not. Only a clear picture to indicate that possibly 1%of it might touch the line, and that too is a guess. It was a guess either way, surely that being the case benefit of reasonable doubt should be in the defenders favour and the ball thought to be out. The reasonable doubt in this shouldn’t favour the ref, it should not be a save face exercise for refs. This is becoming the biggest problem with VAR, though not the only one.

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steeleye20 Croydon 05 Nov 23 1.57pm
'Ball over the line'. You can easily see that it is or not, if your measure is that part of the ball that is in contact with the playing surface. To measure, inaccurately, the whole circumference of the ball which is not in contact with the pitch, is another case of the law's foolhardiness.
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Croydon 05 Nov 23 1.57pm

'Ball over the line'.

You can easily see that it is or not, if your measure is that part of the ball that is in contact with the playing surface.

To measure, inaccurately, the whole circumference of the ball which is not in contact with the pitch, is another case of the law's foolhardiness.

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YT Oxford 05 Nov 23 3.48pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'Ball over the line'. You can easily see that it is or not, if your measure is that part of the ball that is in contact with the playing surface. To measure, inaccurately, the whole circumference of the ball which is not in contact with the pitch, is another case of the law's foolhardiness. Precisely, steeleye. It's the law that is at fault here; it's nothing to do with VAR. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 05 Nov 23 3.48pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Ball over the line'.

You can easily see that it is or not, if your measure is that part of the ball that is in contact with the playing surface.

To measure, inaccurately, the whole circumference of the ball which is not in contact with the pitch, is another case of the law's foolhardiness.

Precisely, steeleye. It's the law that is at fault here; it's nothing to do with VAR.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Fierybiscuits 05 Nov 23 10.34pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'Ball over the line'. You can easily see that it is or not, if your measure is that part of the ball that is in contact with the playing surface. To measure, inaccurately, the whole circumference of the ball which is not in contact with the pitch, is another case of the law's foolhardiness. What about when it’s the goal line?
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Fierybiscuits

05 Nov 23 10.34pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Ball over the line'.

You can easily see that it is or not, if your measure is that part of the ball that is in contact with the playing surface.

To measure, inaccurately, the whole circumference of the ball which is not in contact with the pitch, is another case of the law's foolhardiness.

What about when it’s the goal line?

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Dubai Eagle 06 Nov 23 6.38am
Isnt there a sensor in the ball / fob arrangement to notify the ref (fob vibrates) if the ball crosses the goal line between the posts ? Originally posted by Fierybiscuits What about when it’s the goal line?
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Dubai Eagle

06 Nov 23 6.38am

Isnt there a sensor in the ball / fob arrangement to notify the ref (fob vibrates) if the ball crosses the goal line between the
posts ?

Originally posted by Fierybiscuits

What about when it’s the goal line?

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Teddy Eagle 06 Nov 23 7.49am
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle Isnt there a sensor in the ball / fob arrangement to notify the ref (fob vibrates) if the ball crosses the goal line between the posts ? There is for if it crosses the goal line but not for throw-ins. The World Cup ball seems to have the technology but the League probably don't; which is fair enough - how many contentious throw-ins are there? This rule would be a bit simpler if the ball had to be inside the line instead of partly overhanging from outside it like with corners. [Link]
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Teddy Eagle

06 Nov 23 7.49am

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Isnt there a sensor in the ball / fob arrangement to notify the ref (fob vibrates) if the ball crosses the goal line between the
posts ?

There is for if it crosses the goal line but not for throw-ins. The World Cup ball seems to have the technology but the League probably don't; which is fair enough - how many contentious throw-ins are there?
This rule would be a bit simpler if the ball had to be inside the line instead of partly overhanging from outside it like with corners.

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mars Folkestone 06 Nov 23 12.28pm
Arsenal were robbed no doubt. Don’t blame Arteta and his club for fuming! Maybe VAR should be ditched?
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Folkestone 06 Nov 23 12.28pm

Arsenal were robbed no doubt. Don’t blame Arteta and his club for fuming!
Maybe VAR should be ditched?

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Badger11 Beckenham 06 Nov 23 1.15pm
Originally posted by mars Arsenal were robbed no doubt. Don’t blame Arteta and his club for fuming! Maybe VAR should be ditched? I've never heard them called unlucky before One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 06 Nov 23 1.15pm

Originally posted by mars

Arsenal were robbed no doubt. Don’t blame Arteta and his club for fuming!
Maybe VAR should be ditched?

I've never heard them called unlucky before

One more point

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