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  Hrolf The Ganger  03 Oct 23 11.38am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I see that Farage is attending the Conservative Party Conference in his GB News presenter capacity and getting cosy with Truss and all the others on the right. This looks pretty clearly to be positioning for the post-election situation, which could go several ways. My preference is the right of the Tories accept there is no place for them in the modern Party and they split and join Reform, with Farage either leading them or being their cheerleader at GB News. However I also see the possibility of Truss standing again for Party leader after a humiliating defeat and the membership, bless them, voting for her with Farage encouraging them. That would, I think, signal the final death knell of the Party as a major player and open the door to PR and coalition government. Inevitably, the pervasive nature of liberal, leftist zealotry in this country is leading to a counter reaction.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Oct 23 9.32pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Inevitably, the pervasive nature of liberal, leftist zealotry in this country is leading to a counter reaction. The only people who see any “liberal, leftist zealotry” are the same types who have been bleating about it all my life. They have always been with us. They are just noisier these days in places like GB News and this, whereas before they were restricted to little groups in bars or clubs and went largely unnoticed. Politicians are pragmatists. They know nothing can be done unless you are in government and extremes don’t get to form governments.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 04 Oct 23 9.51am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The only people who see any “liberal, leftist zealotry” are the same types who have been bleating about it all my life. They have always been with us. They are just noisier these days in places like GB News and this, whereas before they were restricted to little groups in bars or clubs and went largely unnoticed. Politicians are pragmatists. They know nothing can be done unless you are in government and extremes don’t get to form governments. But they do pervade our media and commerce and influence the young and stupid. Wokery is a scourge and must be challenged. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2023 9.51am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 23 10.44am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But they do pervade our media and commerce and influence the young and stupid. Wokery is a scourge and must be challenged. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2023 9.51am) Wokery is just a popular insult of those for whom progressive change is never acceptable. It’s not real. Change should be judged solely on its merits. Some things go too far until common sense restores the balance. Others resolve long standing unfairness. Not all good, but not all bad either. The sooner “woke” disappears the better. As a piece of jargon!
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| Stirlingsays 04 Oct 23 11.18am |
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 04 Oct 23 11.22am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Wokery is just a popular insult of those for whom progressive change is never acceptable. It’s not real. Change should be judged solely on its merits. Some things go too far until common sense restores the balance. Others resolve long standing unfairness. Not all good, but not all bad either. The sooner “woke” disappears the better. As a piece of jargon! Quite agree Wisbech. I hate seeing and hearing the word used to describe changes brought about by a tiny minority against the overwhelming views of the majority of ordinary folk.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Oct 23 12.40pm |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 04 Oct 23 2.37pm |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
Quite agree Wisbech. I hate seeing and hearing the word used to describe changes brought about by a tiny minority against the overwhelming views of the majority of ordinary folk. Wisbech doesn't think 'wokery' exists. He just doesn't like the word.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 04 Oct 23 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
[Tweet Link]Although I agree with a lot of what Fox says, he needs to understand that there is a line to be drawn if you want a voice on TV. He has just been sacked by GBN and that is hardly a shock after his arrest. I would add that there is clearly a political angle to his brush with the police, just like Russell Brand, but he has to play a little more clever in future. He had a good spot on GBN and he messed up. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2023 2.43pm)
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 04 Oct 23 3.11pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Although I agree with a lot of what Fox says, he needs to understand that there is a line to be drawn if you want a voice on TV. He has just been sacked by GBN and that is hardly a shock after his arrest. I would add that there is clearly a political angle to his brush with the police, just like Russell Brand, but he has to play a little more clever in future. He had a good spot on GBN and he messed up. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2023 2.43pm) Has Jo Brand been arrested yet for saying she would like to throw acid at Nigel Farage?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 04 Oct 23 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Has Jo Brand been arrested yet for saying she would like to throw acid at Nigel Farage? She didn't upset the right people.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Oct 23 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Although I agree with a lot of what Fox says, he needs to understand that there is a line to be drawn if you want a voice on TV. He has just been sacked by GBN and that is hardly a shock after his arrest. I would add that there is clearly a political angle to his brush with the police, just like Russell Brand, but he has to play a little more clever in future. He had a good spot on GBN and he messed up. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Oct 2023 2.43pm) I'm not going to support GBNews for sacking him. A line must be held and it's the story of the right's failure that they never held one.
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