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 eaglesdare  17 Jan 23 9.28am |
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what about all those extra immigrants being let into the country! surely they also have a huge strain on the NHS!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 23 11.21am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Really? All those extra children don't put additional strain on the NHS? It's also a fact that smokers' net contribution to the tax system is greater than what they cost. I would like to see the evidence for the second claim but even if true the tax system, including NI, pays for a great deal more than the NHS and it’s obviously true that anyone needing to use a resource more because of something they could have avoided is using a greater share than the average. Every person puts a strain on the NHS. Not all smoke, take drugs, drink excessively or otherwise behave in irresponsible ways.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 23 11.24am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
what about all those extra immigrants being let into the country! surely they also have a huge strain on the NHS! It’s a fact that most immigrants are young and are lighter than average users of the NHS. They generally want to work and will pay tax, even if some disappear into the black economy.
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| eaglesdare 17 Jan 23 11.41am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It’s a fact that most immigrants are young and are lighter than average users of the NHS. They generally want to work and will pay tax, even if some disappear into the black economy. Cant take you seriously at all anymore! haha
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Teddy Eagle  17 Jan 23 11.45am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I would like to see the evidence for the second claim but even if true the tax system, including NI, pays for a great deal more than the NHS and it’s obviously true that anyone needing to use a resource more because of something they could have avoided is using a greater share than the average. Every person puts a strain on the NHS. Not all smoke, take drugs, drink excessively or otherwise behave in irresponsible ways.
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| Teddy Eagle 17 Jan 23 11.45am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It’s a fact that most immigrants are young and are lighter than average users of the NHS. They generally want to work and will pay tax, even if some disappear into the black economy. They won't be young forever.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 23 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Smoking, drug taking and excessive drinking cannot be simply categorised as enjoying yourself. They harm the individual, and society through the additional cost of health care, so are irresponsible behaviour to be discouraged by every available means.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 23 12.37pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
They won't be young forever. Of course not but by the time they age they should have contributed at the same level as those born here, without costing society the need to educate them. The suggestion that immigration puts an additional financial strain on us is false.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 23 12.38pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Cant take you seriously at all anymore! haha That’s OK. I’ve never taken you seriously.
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 georgenorman 17 Jan 23 1.47pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course not but by the time they age they should have contributed at the same level as those born here, without costing society the need to educate them. The suggestion that immigration puts an additional financial strain on us is false. It is impossible to say with any certainty. It is a very complex matter and very much depends on which figures are looked at and who is presenting them.
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| Teddy Eagle 17 Jan 23 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Smoking, drug taking and excessive drinking cannot be simply categorised as enjoying yourself. They harm the individual, and society through the additional cost of health care, so are irresponsible behaviour to be discouraged by every available means. A very Calvinist approach to life.
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| Teddy Eagle 17 Jan 23 2.00pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course not but by the time they age they should have contributed at the same level as those born here, without costing society the need to educate them. The suggestion that immigration puts an additional financial strain on us is false. Their children still require school places.
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