Tis indeed Matov, tis indeed!
Listen to Dolores o Riorden singing it with the cranberries -Paris 1999" beneath the skin tour!"

To be fair to you you're talking at least 30 years hence.

I think where I differ is that I prefer Hrolf's English autonomy......but I agree with the idea that essentially the boomers killed that by trusting our leaders back in the late sixties.

Individually Europeans are being turned into minorities in their own homelands and an eventual redoubt is probably the only answer. It's kind of ridiculous, considering how we let this happen to ourselves, but our children will be looking for their own homeland just as the Jews were pre WW2.

Obviously though....it's not what I want for the future....I just don't see how it doesn't happen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Aug 2022 4.36pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Well one thing guaranteed is they will come and graft and put into the system alongside they won’t read a soppy book and try to kill us.

Europe is our homeland. This is the point. Even if we have to regroup in the central/eastern parts, the entirety of it has to be the long-term objective. But that requires a vision bigger than just wrapping ourselves in bits of coloured cloth which are no longer relevant.

Look at the 'UK'. United Kingdom. How can you have a 'United' anything when the very people running the show are constantly telling us 'diversity is our strength'. Flys in the face of basic logic. You can either be United or you can be Diverse. But you cannot be both.

Suspect an English Republic might be one way forward but even then, the diversity BS will still be in play.

There has to be a reckoning. Might not happen for decades but it has to come and from that there has to emerge a dominant cultural identity. But the notion of being British or German or French or whatever is a fading concept. Means less and less every day. A shared European identity could be the solution. As I said, I get the pipe dream part but I am trying to think about the bigger picture because our enemies have their vision and we don't feature in it.

Edited by Matov (24 Aug 2022 5.04pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Has he “done a runner” or been hounded out? At least he stayed around unlike piggy Cameron. I don’t think greeting Biden like an old school friend, gives you any credibility

Can we ban uk passport holders from holidaying in the EU and EU holidaymakers visiting the uk ? It would make getting a sunlounger so much easier in Spain!