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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Mar 22 2.40pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Ok So I am typing too quickly because your attitude annoys me as it is so ridiculous. Every UK citizen is bound only by British law. That's a fact. Everything else is voluntary. Sharia doesn't "operate". It can be used by those who wish to avail of it. I am not bound by Cannon law. Nor by Sharia law. Both are religious laws, but they don't have the same meaning as British law. Sharia councils have been given the right to exist and offer services, to those who wish to use them, but they cannot impose anything. Would YOU accept a ruling handed down under Sharia Law? If not, why must any other British citizen? Cricket has "laws". Golf has "laws". They only apply to those who play the sports and wish to accept them. Sharia is little different. They are rules. Are you seriously comparing golf to Islam? Senility must have set in.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Ok So I am typing too quickly because your attitude annoys me as it is so ridiculous.

Every UK citizen is bound only by British law. That's a fact. Everything else is voluntary. Sharia doesn't "operate". It can be used by those who wish to avail of it.

I am not bound by Cannon law. Nor by Sharia law. Both are religious laws, but they don't have the same meaning as British law. Sharia councils have been given the right to exist and offer services, to those who wish to use them, but they cannot impose anything. Would YOU accept a ruling handed down under Sharia Law? If not, why must any other British citizen?

Cricket has "laws". Golf has "laws". They only apply to those who play the sports and wish to accept them. Sharia is little different.

They are rules. Are you seriously comparing golf to Islam?

Senility must have set in.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 22 2.46pm
Officially, everyone in the UK is bound by UK law (although Scottish Law actually differs). However, there are areas where Sharia is stronger than the official law. That's just the way it is. It is pretty much the same as English being the official language - when, in reality, there are large areas where no one speaks it. I lived in Hounslow for years and had plenty of friends who were pakistani, Indian etc and have seen it with my own eyes. God knows what places like Bradford are like. If they're worse than Southall, I'm not sure I want to know. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 22 2.46pm

Officially, everyone in the UK is bound by UK law (although Scottish Law actually differs). However, there are areas where Sharia is stronger than the official law. That's just the way it is.
It is pretty much the same as English being the official language - when, in reality, there are large areas where no one speaks it. I lived in Hounslow for years and had plenty of friends who were pakistani, Indian etc and have seen it with my own eyes. God knows what places like Bradford are like. If they're worse than Southall, I'm not sure I want to know.

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Stirlingsays 25 Mar 22 2.49pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You can call it whatever you want to, but it isn't a law. There is only one law in the UK, slightly modified in Scotland and Northern Ireland, but nevertheless a law that applies to everyone. That some Muslims want Sharia to be legal, and some others seem to think it is, doesn't change the facts. It isn't and, in my opinion, never will be, anything more than a voluntary way of resolving disputes, usually over family matters. I think perhaps you should go to these Sharia councils and tell them in person that their rulings aren't what the word itself actually states. I would imagine they would laugh you out of the building. I'm not going to continue arguing reality with you. You can have your usual obsessional last word. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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25 Mar 22 2.49pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You can call it whatever you want to, but it isn't a law. There is only one law in the UK, slightly modified in Scotland and Northern Ireland, but nevertheless a law that applies to everyone.

That some Muslims want Sharia to be legal, and some others seem to think it is, doesn't change the facts. It isn't and, in my opinion, never will be, anything more than a voluntary way of resolving disputes, usually over family matters.

I think perhaps you should go to these Sharia councils and tell them in person that their rulings aren't what the word itself actually states.

I would imagine they would laugh you out of the building.

I'm not going to continue arguing reality with you. You can have your usual obsessional last word.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 22 2.51pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I think perhaps you should go to these Sharia councils and tell them in person that their rulings aren't what the word itself actually states. I would imagine they would laugh you out of the building. I'm not going to continue arguing reality with you. You can have your usual obsessional last word. Frankly, doubt they would understand English, or choose to recognise it. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 22 2.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think perhaps you should go to these Sharia councils and tell them in person that their rulings aren't what the word itself actually states.

I would imagine they would laugh you out of the building.

I'm not going to continue arguing reality with you. You can have your usual obsessional last word.

Frankly, doubt they would understand English, or choose to recognise it.

Red and Blue Army!

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Mar 22 2.54pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Officially, everyone in the UK is bound by UK law (although Scottish Law actually differs). However, there are areas where Sharia is stronger than the official law. That's just the way it is. It is pretty much the same as English being the official language - when, in reality, there are large areas where no one speaks it. I lived in Hounslow for years and had plenty of friends who were pakistani, Indian etc and have seen it with my own eyes. God knows what places like Bradford are like. If they're worse than Southall, I'm not sure I want to know. In which areas is 'Sharia stronger than official law' and what does that look like in practice? Which 'large areas where no one speaks English' are there? In the last census, 71.3% of people living in Hounslow are noted to speak English.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC

In which areas is 'Sharia stronger than official law' and what does that look like in practice?

Which 'large areas where no one speaks English' are there? In the last census, 71.3% of people living in Hounslow are noted to speak English.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 22 2.59pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow In which areas is 'Sharia stronger than official law' and what does that look like in practice? Which 'large areas where no one speaks English' are there? In the last census, 71.3% of people living in Hounslow are noted to speak English. So nearly 30 per cent don't to turn that around: is that genuinely ok? Sharia law operates in many places, look it up for yourself. I doubt it's that hidden. No one particularly cares or does anything about it. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 22 2.59pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

In which areas is 'Sharia stronger than official law' and what does that look like in practice?

Which 'large areas where no one speaks English' are there? In the last census, 71.3% of people living in Hounslow are noted to speak English.

So nearly 30 per cent don't to turn that around: is that genuinely ok? Sharia law operates in many places, look it up for yourself. I doubt it's that hidden. No one particularly cares or does anything about it.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Mar 22 3.02pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger They are rules. Are you seriously comparing golf to Islam? Senility must have set in. In you perhaps. I was just pointing out that calling something a "law", doesn't mean it has any legal implications. Maybe that's too difficult for you to understand though. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 Mar 22 3.02pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

They are rules. Are you seriously comparing golf to Islam?

Senility must have set in.

In you perhaps.

I was just pointing out that calling something a "law", doesn't mean it has any legal implications.

Maybe that's too difficult for you to understand though.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Mar 22 3.02pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC So nearly 30 per cent don't to turn that around: is that genuinely ok? Sharia law operates in many places, look it up for yourself. I doubt it's that hidden. No one particularly cares or does anything about it. So when you said 'no one speaks English' what you actually meant was 'most people speak English, but not enough' I've looked it up and every thing I can find completely conflicts what you're saying. What did you mean 'it's stronger than official law?' The only thing which is clear on the matter is it has absolutely zero legal jurisdiction in the country, which is pretty much the basis for something being a law.
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SE19 25 Mar 22 3.02pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

So when you said 'no one speaks English' what you actually meant was 'most people speak English, but not enough'

I've looked it up and every thing I can find completely conflicts what you're saying. What did you mean 'it's stronger than official law?'

The only thing which is clear on the matter is it has absolutely zero legal jurisdiction in the country, which is pretty much the basis for something being a law.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Mar 22 3.03pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You can call it whatever you want to, but it isn't a law. There is only one law in the UK, slightly modified in Scotland and Northern Ireland, but nevertheless a law that applies to everyone. That some Muslims want Sharia to be legal, and some others seem to think it is, doesn't change the facts. It isn't and, in my opinion, never will be, anything more than a voluntary way of resolving disputes, usually over family matters. Stop wasting your time - it's such a disingenuous point, I don't know how you have the patience to even give it air.
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SE19 25 Mar 22 3.03pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You can call it whatever you want to, but it isn't a law. There is only one law in the UK, slightly modified in Scotland and Northern Ireland, but nevertheless a law that applies to everyone.

Stop wasting your time - it's such a disingenuous point, I don't know how you have the patience to even give it air.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Mar 22 3.09pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I think perhaps you should go to these Sharia councils and tell them in person that their rulings aren't what the word itself actually states. I would imagine they would laugh you out of the building. I'm not going to continue arguing reality with you. You can have your usual obsessional last word. They can be as mistaken as you are, if that's their wish. Doesn't change the facts. If they are under any misapprehensions about what the law of the land is, then they would soon find out. In a Court of law. I'll translate that last line of "Stirlingspeak" into plain English for others. "I've been beaten, and don't have any more arguments, but as I cannot admit it, I will pretend otherwise". For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 Mar 22 3.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think perhaps you should go to these Sharia councils and tell them in person that their rulings aren't what the word itself actually states.

I would imagine they would laugh you out of the building.

I'm not going to continue arguing reality with you. You can have your usual obsessional last word.

They can be as mistaken as you are, if that's their wish. Doesn't change the facts. If they are under any misapprehensions about what the law of the land is, then they would soon find out. In a Court of law.

I'll translate that last line of "Stirlingspeak" into plain English for others. "I've been beaten, and don't have any more arguments, but as I cannot admit it, I will pretend otherwise".

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Mar 22 3.13pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Stop wasting your time - it's such a disingenuous point, I don't know how you have the patience to even give it air. I plan to, but these ideas are widely held by these people. I think they are quite sincere, but also quite dangerous. So they need to be given the cold water when they surface. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 Mar 22 3.13pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Stop wasting your time - it's such a disingenuous point, I don't know how you have the patience to even give it air.

I plan to, but these ideas are widely held by these people. I think they are quite sincere, but also quite dangerous. So they need to be given the cold water when they surface.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 25 Mar 22 3.16pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow So when you said 'no one speaks English' what you actually meant was 'most people speak English, but not enough' I've looked it up and every thing I can find completely conflicts what you're saying. What did you mean 'it's stronger than official law?' The only thing which is clear on the matter is it has absolutely zero legal jurisdiction in the country, which is pretty much the basis for something being a law. These are word games. What matters is what the reality is....for example, stating that 30 percent of the people in an English area don't actually speak the language of the country is mind boggling......That's an amazing statistic for those that seem to celebrate multiculturalism....and proof of the historical lies told to the English about integration when mass immigration began. Regardless, to get back to reality being what's important here, your point about what has 'legal jurisdiction' matters much less than what actually happens. It wasn't 'legal' to tape the top forty off the radio, back in the day, however most people did it. How interested were the Police in that crime, even though it's on the books. What matters is what the reality is. With the importing of mass middle eastern cultures, not only do we have mass taking over of regions but with it we have the emergence of female genital mutilation....something that wasn't known to exist here, same with acid attacks and honour killings.....all imported cultural realities. No one was asked....This was forced onto the country and was never supported. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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25 Mar 22 3.16pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

So when you said 'no one speaks English' what you actually meant was 'most people speak English, but not enough'

I've looked it up and every thing I can find completely conflicts what you're saying. What did you mean 'it's stronger than official law?'

The only thing which is clear on the matter is it has absolutely zero legal jurisdiction in the country, which is pretty much the basis for something being a law.

These are word games.

What matters is what the reality is....for example, stating that 30 percent of the people in an English area don't actually speak the language of the country is mind boggling......That's an amazing statistic for those that seem to celebrate multiculturalism....and proof of the historical lies told to the English about integration when mass immigration began.

Regardless, to get back to reality being what's important here, your point about what has 'legal jurisdiction' matters much less than what actually happens.

It wasn't 'legal' to tape the top forty off the radio, back in the day, however most people did it. How interested were the Police in that crime, even though it's on the books. What matters is what the reality is.

With the importing of mass middle eastern cultures, not only do we have mass taking over of regions but with it we have the emergence of female genital mutilation....something that wasn't known to exist here, same with acid attacks and honour killings.....all imported cultural realities.

No one was asked....This was forced onto the country and was never supported.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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