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Badger11 Beckenham 06 Dec 20 8.49am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I refuse to believe you don't see the difference. Sorry to disappoint you. One more point
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Beckenham 06 Dec 20 8.49am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I refuse to believe you don't see the difference.

Sorry to disappoint you.

One more point

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Mapletree Croydon 06 Dec 20 9.32am
Originally posted by HKOwen [Link] Clearly not an organisation.......oh, hang on You not lack any capacity to understand but you don't seem to know what a philosophy is, doesn't seem to be a fundraising website for stoicism as an example and remember our own AT [Link] quote=Mapletree;3580092] I lack no capacity to understand. Nor does every player in every football club in the country. Perhaps it is you that is missing something And just to repeat, again. BLM is NOT an organisation. It is a philosophy. Some organisations have sprung up using the words, they do not all necessarily represent the views of those that believe in the philosophy. Edited by HKOwen (06 Dec 2020 7.04am) I opened your link. It said: WE WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation. We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform. Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else. We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party. Disclaimer: We are NEITHER associated or affiliated with @ukblm, recently registered (Sep 2020) with FCA under the name 'Black Liberation Movement UK' nor are will affiliated to BLM USA and or any other political group, party here in the UK or abroad. Edited by Mapletree (06 Dec 2020 9.32am)
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Croydon 06 Dec 20 9.32am

Originally posted by HKOwen

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Clearly not an organisation.......oh, hang on

You not lack any capacity to understand but you don't seem to know what a philosophy is, doesn't seem to be a fundraising website for stoicism as an example

and remember our own AT

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quote=Mapletree;3580092]

I lack no capacity to understand. Nor does every player in every football club in the country. Perhaps it is you that is missing something

And just to repeat, again. BLM is NOT an organisation. It is a philosophy. Some organisations have sprung up using the words, they do not all necessarily represent the views of those that believe in the philosophy.

Edited by HKOwen (06 Dec 2020 7.04am)

I opened your link. It said:

WE WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform. Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party.

Disclaimer: We are NEITHER associated or affiliated with @ukblm, recently registered (Sep 2020) with FCA under the name 'Black Liberation Movement UK' nor are will affiliated to BLM USA and or any other political group, party here in the UK or abroad.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Dec 2020 9.32am)

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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Dec 20 10.14am
Originally posted by Mapletree I opened your link. It said: WE WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation. We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform. Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else. We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party. Disclaimer: We are NEITHER associated or affiliated with @ukblm, recently registered (Sep 2020) with FCA under the name 'Black Liberation Movement UK' nor are will affiliated to BLM USA and or any other political group, party here in the UK or abroad. Edited by Mapletree (06 Dec 2020 9.32am) This is all rather quaint in a world where only 10% of people are White and where in many countries which are predominantly White, the population has been subject to mass immigration whether they liked it or not and then told to swallow positive discrimination. The vast majority of the planet's population sees no White on Black racism because there are virtually no White people there. In any country where you happen to be the minority, one will always experience a degree of prejudice. That is an unavoidable reality. Of course BLM have nothing to do with any reality regarding equality. What they want is power. There are laws to ensure equality of treatment, and they are perfectly adequate in all the areas that matter as far as any law can ever be. Unless of course you think that all these people take a knee just because someone once called someone else a nasty name at a football match.
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Originally posted by Mapletree

I opened your link. It said:

WE WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform. Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Dec 2020 9.32am)

This is all rather quaint in a world where only 10% of people are White and where in many countries which are predominantly White, the population has been subject to mass immigration whether they liked it or not and then told to swallow positive discrimination. The vast majority of the planet's population sees no White on Black racism because there are virtually no White people there. In any country where you happen to be the minority, one will always experience a degree of prejudice. That is an unavoidable reality. Of course BLM have nothing to do with any reality regarding equality. What they want is power.

There are laws to ensure equality of treatment, and they are perfectly adequate in all the areas that matter as far as any law can ever be.
Unless of course you think that all these people take a knee just because someone once called someone else a nasty name at a football match.

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Stirlingsays 06 Dec 20 10.40am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger This is all rather quaint in a world where only 10% of people are White and where in many countries which are predominantly White, the population has been subject to mass immigration whether they liked it or not and then told to swallow positive discrimination. The vast majority of the planet's population sees no White on Black racism because there are virtually no White people there. In any country where you happen to be the minority, one will always experience a degree of prejudice. That is an unavoidable reality. Of course BLM have nothing to do with any reality regarding equality. What they want is power. There are laws to ensure equality of treatment, and they are perfectly adequate in all the areas that matter as far as any law can ever be. Unless of course you think that all these people take a knee just because someone once called someone else a nasty name at a football match. Excellent points and welcome back. You are right, it's about power. Observe the reactions and how the institutions react against any dissent upon their messaging.....apparently the poor black and white millionaires are being oppressed by booing. It's about the diversity industry protecting and expanding its cash grabs. It's been created by mainly middle class liberals indoctrinated into white guilt, eager to virtue signal and talk down to those who aren't....mainly the working classes. Football is a working class game but it was always open to all. If you were good enough you always had a place. It isn't there as a showpiece for your politics. However, once we foolishly allowed corporates to take football over we subjected ourselves to this 'group think' mantra. If someone wants to clap taking the knee or boo it, then in a free country that's their right. What the FA thinks about it means bugger all. However, with these jerks infecting society today....and government not standing up for freedom....We are no longer that free society. People need to shake off the fear of being branded 'racist' by morons, who use it as a weapon and stand up for the freedom their ancestors created. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2020 10.43am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Dec 20 10.40am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Excellent points and welcome back.

You are right, it's about power.

Observe the reactions and how the institutions react against any dissent upon their messaging.....apparently the poor black and white millionaires are being oppressed by booing.

It's about the diversity industry protecting and expanding its cash grabs. It's been created by mainly middle class liberals indoctrinated into white guilt, eager to virtue signal and talk down to those who aren't....mainly the working classes.

Football is a working class game but it was always open to all. If you were good enough you always had a place.

It isn't there as a showpiece for your politics. However, once we foolishly allowed corporates to take football over we subjected ourselves to this 'group think' mantra.

If someone wants to clap taking the knee or boo it, then in a free country that's their right. What the FA thinks about it means bugger all.

However, with these jerks infecting society today....and government not standing up for freedom....We are no longer that free society.

People need to shake off the fear of being branded 'racist' by morons, who use it as a weapon and stand up for the freedom their ancestors created.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2020 10.43am)

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serial thriller The Promised Land 06 Dec 20 10.41am
Millwall fans are racist scum. Anyone who is taking their side needs to have a long hard look at yourself. Always thought we were a step above the apes from Bermondsey but clearly a lot of you aspire to their ideals. Here's it is from one of their own players: [Link] If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Millwall fans are racist scum.

Anyone who is taking their side needs to have a long hard look at yourself. Always thought we were a step above the apes from Bermondsey but clearly a lot of you aspire to their ideals.

Here's it is from one of their own players: [Link]

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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dreamwaverider London 06 Dec 20 10.47am
Originally posted by serial thriller Millwall fans are racist scum. Anyone who is taking their side needs to have a long hard look at yourself. Always thought we were a step above the apes from Bermondsey but clearly a lot of you aspire to their ideals. Here's it is from one of their own players: [Link] I suggest you read the trail of posts on here to give yourself a bit of balance on this subject. You may then reconsider your ferocious attack on our neighbours.
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Originally posted by serial thriller

Millwall fans are racist scum.

Anyone who is taking their side needs to have a long hard look at yourself. Always thought we were a step above the apes from Bermondsey but clearly a lot of you aspire to their ideals.

Here's it is from one of their own players: [Link]

I suggest you read the trail of posts on here to give yourself a bit of balance on this subject. You may then reconsider your ferocious attack on our neighbours.

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baldeagle73 Leamington spa 06 Dec 20 10.48am
I really don’t give a dam if millionaire football players want to kneel for whichever cause they choose to support but I don’t want to pay too see it I don’t give a dam about football players thoughts on any subject race politics what music or food they like just play football walking down the holmesdale road to see the palace aces!
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Leamington spa 06 Dec 20 10.48am

I really don’t give a dam if millionaire football players want to kneel for whichever cause they choose to support but I don’t want to pay too see it I don’t give a dam about football players thoughts on any subject race politics what music or food they like just play football

walking down the holmesdale road to see the palace aces!

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Stirlingsays 06 Dec 20 10.48am
Originally posted by serial thriller Millwall fans are racist scum. Anyone who is taking their side needs to have a long hard look at yourself. Always thought we were a step above the apes from Bermondsey but clearly a lot of you aspire to their ideals. Here's it is from one of their own players: [Link] It's amusing....you moan about racism and then use absolutes to describe a group. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Dec 20 10.48am

Originally posted by serial thriller

Millwall fans are racist scum.

Anyone who is taking their side needs to have a long hard look at yourself. Always thought we were a step above the apes from Bermondsey but clearly a lot of you aspire to their ideals.

Here's it is from one of their own players: [Link]

It's amusing....you moan about racism and then use absolutes to describe a group.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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serial thriller The Promised Land 06 Dec 20 10.50am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider I suggest you read the trail of posts on here to give yourself a bit of balance on this subject. You may then reconsider your ferocious attack on our neighbours. Why would I want to read 10 pages of Palace fans brown nosing a bunch of cowards from Bermondsey? When I was 4, my dad taught me two things about Milwall. 1. They are scum. 2. They are racist scum. That will always be true, and yesterday proved it. The fact you even have black players there coming out and saying what he did, and the fans ignoring their own players just so they can get some air time for their racism says all you need to know about that club. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 06 Dec 20 10.50am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I suggest you read the trail of posts on here to give yourself a bit of balance on this subject. You may then reconsider your ferocious attack on our neighbours.

Why would I want to read 10 pages of Palace fans brown nosing a bunch of cowards from Bermondsey?

When I was 4, my dad taught me two things about Milwall. 1. They are scum. 2. They are racist scum.

That will always be true, and yesterday proved it. The fact you even have black players there coming out and saying what he did, and the fans ignoring their own players just so they can get some air time for their racism says all you need to know about that club.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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serial thriller The Promised Land 06 Dec 20 11.00am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays It's amusing....you moan about racism and then use absolutes to describe a group. Here's a link to their forum if you need further evidence: [Link] So a black player who says he takes a knee to speak out about discrimination is called 'a fcking cnt' who is 'gibbering s* out of your c* hole gob desperately trying to save yourself you little snivelling s*... Cos I will fill you in if I ever see you. I will fill you in proper. You absolute c*.' But of course, that isn't racism. They're just misunderstood. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 06 Dec 20 11.00am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's amusing....you moan about racism and then use absolutes to describe a group.

Here's a link to their forum if you need further evidence: [Link]

So a black player who says he takes a knee to speak out about discrimination is called 'a f*cking c*nt' who is 'gibbering s*** out of your c*** hole gob desperately trying to save yourself you little snivelling s***... Cos I will fill you in if I ever see you. I will fill you in proper. You absolute c***.'

But of course, that isn't racism. They're just misunderstood.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Teddy Eagle 06 Dec 20 11.04am
Originally posted by serial thriller Why would I want to read 10 pages of Palace fans brown nosing a bunch of cowards from Bermondsey? When I was 4, my dad taught me two things about Milwall. 1. They are scum. 2. They are racist scum. That will always be true, and yesterday proved it. The fact you even have black players there coming out and saying what he did, and the fans ignoring their own players just so they can get some air time for their racism says all you need to know about that club. When you were 4? Did he also warn you to keep your head down in New Cross pubs and to watch out for gold diggers at your nursery?
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06 Dec 20 11.04am

Originally posted by serial thriller

Why would I want to read 10 pages of Palace fans brown nosing a bunch of cowards from Bermondsey?

When I was 4, my dad taught me two things about Milwall. 1. They are scum. 2. They are racist scum.

When you were 4? Did he also warn you to keep your head down in New Cross pubs and to watch out for gold diggers at your nursery?

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dreamwaverider London 06 Dec 20 11.05am
Taking the knee is the FA’ s PC answer to a racism incident in the USA that went global and they knew in empty stadiums it would not be challenged. Whichever snowflake dreamt it up probably reckoned it would bring attention to racism in sport. With a good percentage of players in the premier being black they probably felt it would be doing the right thing to help the cause. Re open the gates and you can see they got it wrong....as they do with so many things. (VAR comes to mind). My opinion is that players and clubs just go along with these types of directives. Who wouldn’t when you are getting £100m + per year to share out. Most football fans are not racist. But there are a hell of a lot of us who can’t stand all this PC stuff that has dramatically altered our lives. All seater stadiums etc etc. So put take the knee in front of the hardest fans in the land and what do you expect? Anybody on here shocked by what happened at Millwall yesterday really don’t know much about football and it’s fans.
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Taking the knee is the FA’ s PC answer to a racism incident in the USA that went global and they knew in empty stadiums it would not be challenged. Whichever snowflake dreamt it up probably reckoned it would bring attention to racism in sport. With a good percentage of players in the premier being black they probably felt it would be doing the right thing to help the cause. Re open the gates and you can see they got it wrong....as they do with so many things. (VAR comes to mind). My opinion is that players and clubs just go along with these types of directives. Who wouldn’t when you are getting £100m + per year to share out.
Most football fans are not racist. But there are a hell of a lot of us who can’t stand all this PC stuff that has dramatically altered our lives. All seater stadiums etc etc. So put take the knee in front of the hardest fans in the land and what do you expect? Anybody on here shocked by what happened at Millwall yesterday really don’t know much about football and it’s fans.

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