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Painter Croydon 15 Jul 18 4.35pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Those are for 2 seasons before this season. The average spend is about £45 mil per season so we therefore have SOME money to spend even after subtracting the higher wage bill we’ve been paying. Again, why did we bid all that money in January for positions Parish knew we’d more than likely need to fill, and we still do need to fill? Either we have the money or Parish is an idiot and not beyond criticism. Its easy to criticise without being in possession of the full details. Calling Parish an idiot lessens the validity of your point, like most your just guessing.
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Painter

Croydon 15 Jul 18 4.35pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Those are for 2 seasons before this season. The average spend is about £45 mil per season so we therefore have SOME money to spend even after subtracting the higher wage bill we’ve been paying.

Again, why did we bid all that money in January for positions Parish knew we’d more than likely need to fill, and we still do need to fill? Either we have the money or Parish is an idiot and not beyond criticism.

Its easy to criticise without being in possession of the full details. Calling Parish an idiot lessens the validity of your point, like most your just guessing.

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Direwolf Lincoln 15 Jul 18 5.02pm
In terms of the overall squad we are still in a very similar position to last year even if we have no new additions. The defence is intact with just the loss of Delaney countered by Jach, who still has four other CB's to get past before he makes the team. The forward line now has three strikers potentially instead of the one from last season. The midfield is lighter given the absence of Cabaye and potentially Sako, although the latter was better as a makeshift striker anyway. Lee is not a miss and neither would Mutch be if he went. Not sure if Williams actually offers much but we still have Wilf, Andros, Jairo, Jimmy Mac, Luka, and Punch. Roy is also looking at Kirby, Lokilo, Kaikai and Lumeka. The addition of a couple of decent loans wouldn't make a bad side.
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Direwolf

Lincoln 15 Jul 18 5.02pm

In terms of the overall squad we are still in a very similar position to last year even if we have no new additions.
The defence is intact with just the loss of Delaney countered by Jach, who still has four other CB's to get past before he makes the team.
The forward line now has three strikers potentially instead of the one from last season.
The midfield is lighter given the absence of Cabaye and potentially Sako, although the latter was better as a makeshift striker anyway. Lee is not a miss and neither would Mutch be if he went. Not sure if Williams actually offers much but we still have Wilf, Andros, Jairo, Jimmy Mac, Luka, and Punch. Roy is also looking at Kirby, Lokilo, Kaikai and Lumeka. The addition of a couple of decent loans wouldn't make a bad side.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Jul 18 5.29pm
Originally posted by Painter Its easy to criticise without being in possession of the full details. Calling Parish an idiot lessens the validity of your point, like most your just guessing. you have trouble understanding English as I was answering ali’s logic. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 15 Jul 18 5.29pm

Originally posted by Painter

Its easy to criticise without being in possession of the full details. Calling Parish an idiot lessens the validity of your point, like most your just guessing.

you have trouble understanding English as I was answering ali’s logic.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Jul 18 5.35pm
Originally posted by Ali_Campbell Our wage ratio was like 72%. That means for every 100million we earn, 72 million on wages. For the dummies out there, If our average spend over the last two seasons has been 45 million....guess what....WE ARE LOSING MONEY. .... and these are the sort of people that attend the same matches as me. (Hand over eyes monkey emoji) Plus we are trying to build a new stand. So we need to put aside even more money we haven’t got. I do not know where the money came from for the players in January. I can only speculate and perhaps it was gamble like Villa to spend in January to secure perm survival. I’m just looking at the hard facts which is clear for everyone to see. We cannot continue in the same way we have done in the past two/three seasons. We need to change direction which is difficult for some fans to understand. But I’m confident in Steve, Roy and the team to pull through. I hope you are too We reported a profit a few weeks ago in the company accounts for season 16/17. If we have the ‘no money’ you’re re-emphasising after adjusting it to some money and not actually no money then I’m lost as to why we got ourselves in the situation with the wage offered to Cabaye and him leaving. The likelihood is we have some. Some for a centre mid and for 2 loans. There might possibly be money for some cheap purchases too but I’ll be surprised if there aren’t funds and a plan to make serious bids for centre mids after events since January. And why did we bid for Adamou in January? We didn’t actually need anyone in his position. Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Jul 2018 5.41pm) COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 15 Jul 18 5.35pm

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

Our wage ratio was like 72%. That means for every 100million we earn, 72 million on wages. For the dummies out there, If our average spend over the last two seasons has been 45 million....guess what....WE ARE LOSING MONEY.

.... and these are the sort of people that attend the same matches as me. (Hand over eyes monkey emoji)

Plus we are trying to build a new stand. So we need to put aside even more money we haven’t got.

I do not know where the money came from for the players in January. I can only speculate and perhaps it was gamble like Villa to spend in January to secure perm survival.

I’m just looking at the hard facts which is clear for everyone to see. We cannot continue in the same way we have done in the past two/three seasons. We need to change direction which is difficult for some fans to understand. But I’m confident in Steve, Roy and the team to pull through. I hope you are too

We reported a profit a few weeks ago in the company accounts for season 16/17.

If we have the ‘no money’ you’re re-emphasising after adjusting it to some money and not actually no money then I’m lost as to why we got ourselves in the situation with the wage offered to Cabaye and him leaving.

The likelihood is we have some. Some for a centre mid and for 2 loans. There might possibly be money for some cheap purchases too but I’ll be surprised if there aren’t funds and a plan to make serious bids for centre mids after events since January.

And why did we bid for Adamou in January? We didn’t actually need anyone in his position.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Jul 2018 5.41pm)

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pssguy 15 Jul 18 5.42pm
Originally posted by Direwolf In terms of the overall squad we are still in a very similar position to last year even if we have no new additions. ... The addition of a couple of decent loans wouldn't make a bad side. But key is that last year we did have two good loans - with RLC outstanding in the run in. This has not usually been the case so we cannot assume the same again. Sanogo anyone?
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pssguy

15 Jul 18 5.42pm

Originally posted by Direwolf

In terms of the overall squad we are still in a very similar position to last year even if we have no new additions.
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The addition of a couple of decent loans wouldn't make a bad side.

But key is that last year we did have two good loans - with RLC outstanding in the run in. This has not usually been the case so we cannot assume the same again. Sanogo anyone?

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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Jul 18 6.13pm
Presumably RH would not be staying if he did not have a squad he feels he can work with. He didn't get the 7 players he wanted in the last window either but carried on ok. The loss of 3 midfield players RLC, Lee and Cabaye is very damaging, if I am right he actually stopped Lee from leaving last January. Trust his judgement I guess.
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steeleye20

Croydon 15 Jul 18 6.13pm

Presumably RH would not be staying if he did not have a squad he feels he can work with.

He didn't get the 7 players he wanted in the last window either but carried on ok.

The loss of 3 midfield players RLC, Lee and Cabaye is very damaging, if I am right he actually stopped Lee from leaving last January.

Trust his judgement I guess.

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 15 Jul 18 6.36pm
Originally posted by Painter I would suggest that he has done a better job than our previous chairmen. You have a rose tinted view of how a chairman should act. When he communicates with the fans far more than any previous chairmen have, but he gets criticized for it, so why bother. Everyone is entitled to a holiday, do you think other Premier chairmen don't have any? He may have done better, sure, but look how they all ended, so it's not very hard - but in comparisons to present day chairmen, he isn't that good. Twitter was around back then and quality not quantity and the saying 'wise council' Parish is entitled to a holiday - sure - but to broadcast it over social media whilst he should be keeping a low profile as the club actively seeks improvement and you're not telling me his trip to the world cup isn't written off by palace? And, i have a lot more respect for the yanks - why? they come in, give us money and let the club get on with it. They could be off to russia, getting pissed on by tarts for all we know, but we don't... that's the beauty - i'm just tired of parish actively putting us in relegation battles and then last minute spends that cripples us long term. His side company - smoke and mirros should answer all you need to know Edited by Vaibow (15 Jul 2018 6.39pm) This was once a quality forum....
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Vaibow

vancouver/croydon 15 Jul 18 6.36pm

Originally posted by Painter

I would suggest that he has done a better job than our previous chairmen.
You have a rose tinted view of how a chairman should act. When he communicates with the fans far more than any previous chairmen have, but he gets criticized for it, so why bother.
Everyone is entitled to a holiday, do you think other Premier chairmen don't have any?

He may have done better, sure, but look how they all ended, so it's not very hard - but in comparisons to present day chairmen, he isn't that good.

Twitter was around back then and quality not quantity and the saying 'wise council'

Parish is entitled to a holiday - sure - but to broadcast it over social media whilst he should be keeping a low profile as the club actively seeks improvement and you're not telling me his trip to the world cup isn't written off by palace?

And, i have a lot more respect for the yanks - why? they come in, give us money and let the club get on with it. They could be off to russia, getting pissed on by tarts for all we know, but we don't... that's the beauty - i'm just tired of parish actively putting us in relegation battles and then last minute spends that cripples us long term.

His side company - smoke and mirros should answer all you need to know

Edited by Vaibow (15 Jul 2018 6.39pm)

This was once a quality forum....

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Mstrobez 15 Jul 18 6.51pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Presumably RH would not be staying if he did not have a squad he feels he can work with. He didn't get the 7 players he wanted in the last window either but carried on ok. The loss of 3 midfield players RLC, Lee and Cabaye is very damaging, if I am right he actually stopped Lee from leaving last January. Trust his judgement I guess. I’m not so sure. I think Roy just has class, unlike the Big Sams/Pulis’ of this world and respects the club. Probably trusts in his ability to keep us afloat regardless too. But I can’t imagine he’d be particularly happy with the business we’ve done so far in his half a year at the club. The notion that this squad is anything but a firmly placed relegation candidate is a false one. We're the Arthur over ere!
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Mstrobez

15 Jul 18 6.51pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Presumably RH would not be staying if he did not have a squad he feels he can work with.

He didn't get the 7 players he wanted in the last window either but carried on ok.

The loss of 3 midfield players RLC, Lee and Cabaye is very damaging, if I am right he actually stopped Lee from leaving last January.

Trust his judgement I guess.

I’m not so sure. I think Roy just has class, unlike the Big Sams/Pulis’ of this world and respects the club. Probably trusts in his ability to keep us afloat regardless too.

But I can’t imagine he’d be particularly happy with the business we’ve done so far in his half a year at the club. The notion that this squad is anything but a firmly placed relegation candidate is a false one.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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matthau South Croydon 15 Jul 18 6.55pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman We reported a profit a few weeks ago in the company accounts for season 16/17. If we have the ‘no money’ you’re re-emphasising after adjusting it to some money and not actually no money then I’m lost as to why we got ourselves in the situation with the wage offered to Cabaye and him leaving. The likelihood is we have some. Some for a centre mid and for 2 loans. There might possibly be money for some cheap purchases too but I’ll be surprised if there aren’t funds and a plan to make serious bids for centre mids after events since January. And why did we bid for Adamou in January? We didn’t actually need anyone in his position. Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Jul 2018 5.41pm) Maybe the 15 or so mill we have wasn’t enough slice of cake for the yanks investment
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matthau

South Croydon 15 Jul 18 6.55pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We reported a profit a few weeks ago in the company accounts for season 16/17.

And why did we bid for Adamou in January? We didn’t actually need anyone in his position.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Jul 2018 5.41pm)

Maybe the 15 or so mill we have wasn’t enough slice of cake for the yanks investment

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oldstand Christchurch 15 Jul 18 7.12pm
Have to look at how we finished the latter half of the season, decent. We know as does “Steve” a creative mid is vital. It will happen, Roy will demand it , we’ll get it. Relax .
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oldstand

Christchurch 15 Jul 18 7.12pm

Have to look at how we finished the latter half of the season, decent. We know as does “Steve” a creative mid is vital. It will happen, Roy will demand it , we’ll get it. Relax .

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Jacey 15 Jul 18 7.15pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Presumably RH would not be staying if he did not have a squad he feels he can work with. He didn't get the 7 players he wanted in the last window either but carried on ok. The loss of 3 midfield players RLC, Lee and Cabaye is very damaging, if I am right he actually stopped Lee from leaving last January. Trust his judgement I guess. Don't think Parish gives a damn as it is all about cutting costs and reducing the apparently too high wages bill. Still paying for the previous signings,no money for big name signings this window, at best, loan signings only. Edited by bexleydave (16 Jul 2018 8.08am)
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Jacey

15 Jul 18 7.15pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Presumably RH would not be staying if he did not have a squad he feels he can work with.

He didn't get the 7 players he wanted in the last window either but carried on ok.

The loss of 3 midfield players RLC, Lee and Cabaye is very damaging, if I am right he actually stopped Lee from leaving last January.

Trust his judgement I guess.

Don't think Parish gives a damn as it is all about cutting costs and reducing the apparently too high wages bill.
Still paying for the previous signings,no money for big name signings this window, at best, loan signings only.

Edited by bexleydave (16 Jul 2018 8.08am)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Jul 18 7.20pm
Originally posted by matthau Maybe the 15 or so mill we have wasn’t enough slice of cake for the yanks investment Can you clarify what you mean? Thanks COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 15 Jul 18 7.20pm

Originally posted by matthau

Maybe the 15 or so mill we have wasn’t enough slice of cake for the yanks investment

Can you clarify what you mean? Thanks

COYP

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