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hedgehog50  Croydon 07 Nov 17 10.20pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do we? Which bits don't you?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Nov 17 10.32pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Which bits don't you? All of it. Not unlimited funds to the NHS. Enough to train nurses and doctors without saddling themselves in debt, enough to ensure there are enough staff to mail urgent care, enough money for r + d. I don't think the state should run everything. I don't like the bureaucracy of the EU, but would rather that then the suicide mission we appear to be on? Advisory bodies, oh yeah we all know what people have been lead to believe about experts. Regional governments in not too sure about.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Nov 17 2.24pm |
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In May, Labour controlled Sefton Council bought the New Strand shopping centre in Bootle through a Luxembourg company for £32.5 million - saving £1.6 million in stamp duty.
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 steeleye20 Croydon 08 Nov 17 2.41pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
In May, Labour controlled Sefton Council bought the New Strand shopping centre in Bootle through a Luxembourg company for £32.5 million - saving £1.6 million in stamp duty. A good point that because the Council is on one hand acting responsibly in limiting the damage to the council taxpayer, but on another irresponsibly in avoiding tax by buying through Luxembourg. Simply the 'Luxembourg' loophole used currently by large and small whatever the politics to evade tax, should be closed and all taxes payable at source to the UK. Sounds easy doesn't it, but why not. How about taxing all these people retrospectively on all these transactions going back five years.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 08 Nov 17 2.45pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Prince Chas is now implicated... Prince Charles's estate made big profit on stake in friend's offshore firm (Am I allowed to post this? Edited by nickgusset (07 Nov 2017 6.02pm)
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)| Lyons550 Shirley 08 Nov 17 2.47pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
When you already have more than you will ever need. What's the threshold for that then TUX? Do you think there should be some sort of equation that could be applied to each and everyone of us? It's an interesting thought...
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| Lyons550 Shirley 08 Nov 17 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It's funny that when people manipulate the tax system and claim to be "advisors" at offshore companies "loaning" funds back to themself marked down "not as income" it's absolutely fair game but when a scumbag at the other end of society manipulates the benefit system they're a disgusting piece of s*** who are largely at fault for the budget deficit and all the genuinely disabled, sick and desperate people must pay for this in cuts to their only form of income and independence. The double standards we apply and the pre conceptions we hold in this country based on simply a persons wealth is utterly astounding. The thing is though...ones LEGAL and the other isn't (i.e. benefit fraud)...otherwise i'd have gone along with your hypothesis..
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| Mstrobez 08 Nov 17 6.39pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
The thing is though...ones LEGAL and the other isn't (i.e. benefit fraud)...otherwise i'd have gone along with your hypothesis.. The problem is a lot of the time technically it's actually not legal, it's just nearly impossible to properly police. It's straight up deception a lot of the time, they just know they will almost certainly get away with it. Swerving income tax by dressing up your income as a loan that you have no intention of ever paying back is no different from exagerrating a disability with the intention of receiving a higher entitlement of benefit. Both are illegal, but if done properly there's very little that anyone can do to stop it on a significant level. Both are still f***ing wrong & both groups of people should be held in the same light. Edited by Mstrobez (08 Nov 2017 6.41pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Nov 17 9.23pm |
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James O'Brien with some cogent points. [Tweet Link]
Edited by nickgusset (08 Nov 2017 9.29pm)
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Nov 17 9.37pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
James O'Brien with some cogent point Edited by nickgusset (08 Nov 2017 9.29pm) What's you take (and O'Brien's for that matter) on Labour councils avoiding paying millions in Stamp Duty? Edited by hedgehog50 (08 Nov 2017 9.37pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Nov 17 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
What's you take (and O'Brien's for that matter) on Labour councils avoiding paying millions in Stamp Duty? Edited by hedgehog50 (08 Nov 2017 9.37pm) For the sake of our readers, can you tell them what his position is. It's a toughy for me because although they used offshore to avoid stamp duty it was to save money for the council budget. Had the budget not been slashed , they may not have had recourse to do it in the first place. But avoiding tax is avoiding tax... It does beg the question of whether stamp duty should be applied to public buildings. No doubt there will be a broad spectrum of tax avoiders when more comes out. Be interesting to see who the media cherry pick for their hypocritical ire. Edited by nickgusset (08 Nov 2017 10.04pm)
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Nov 17 10.06pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
For the sake of our readers, can you tell them what his position is. I don't know. I don't listen to guy much or know much about him. When I have heard him, he just aggressively attacks anyone who doesn't toe the left wing line. I heard his 'interview' with Farage, which was a disgrace. He comes across as a bully, rather like Galloway. As for his view on Labour Councils avoiding paying tax, I imagine he keeps very quite about it. Edited by hedgehog50 (08 Nov 2017 10.07pm)
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