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jamiemartin721  Reading 03 Nov 17 3.31pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
The one that really gets me is when they say that equalising the state pension age is unfair to women. Men generally paid in more contributions to it, got it several years later and die younger. If anything we should have a few decades where the shoe is on the other foot. It shouldn't be an argument about male and female, but on contributions made. Equality is just that, the removal of the concept of male and female from the equation as a means of division. If you paid more in, you should get more paid out - That's how the system works. Its only sexist if it discriminates on the basis of gender. Some people won't see that, because the can't admit it - There are other conversations around subjects like pay - where there is arguably much more of a case.
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  Hrolf The Ganger 03 Nov 17 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by rikz
I always ask them when they're going to ask for female athletes to be stripped of world records that have been bettered by males. They never seem too keen on that idea or just getting rid of gender specified events in sporting competitions, again it seems a weird one when they're constantly calling for us all to be equal. It's called self serving hypocrisy. Get used to it.
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| Stirlingsays 03 Nov 17 3.37pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
It shouldn't be an argument about male and female, but on contributions made. Equality is just that, the removal of the concept of male and female from the equation as a means of division. If you paid more in, you should get more paid out - That's how the system works. Its only sexist if it discriminates on the basis of gender. Some people won't see that, because the can't admit it - There are other conversations around subjects like pay - where there is arguably much more of a case. If a woman has been a mother and raised children and hence been unable to work.....I think that entitles them to part of those retirement ill gotten gains. A social contract implicitly exists between individual and state. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Nov 2017 3.37pm)
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| Stuk Top half 03 Nov 17 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
It shouldn't be an argument about male and female, but on contributions made. Equality is just that, the removal of the concept of male and female from the equation as a means of division. If you paid more in, you should get more paid out - That's how the system works. Its only sexist if it discriminates on the basis of gender. Some people won't see that, because the can't admit it - There are other conversations around subjects like pay - where there is arguably much more of a case. Sadly it doesn't. You pay in 30 years or 50 years worth of contributions, you still get the same amounts. It did, and it still does.
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| Stuk Top half 03 Nov 17 4.25pm |
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Originally posted by rikz
I always ask them when they're going to ask for female athletes to be stripped of world records that have been bettered by males. They never seem too keen on that idea or just getting rid of gender specified events in sporting competitions, again it seems a weird one when they're constantly calling for us all to be equal. We'll probably end up with a 3rd set of "world records" rather than just having the one set of them. I do wonder why no women have been world champions in sports that aren't down to strength, power, stamina etc. Darts, snooker, motor sports etc have no rules on gender yet not one woman has ever even come close to it.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 03 Nov 17 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If a woman has been a mother and raised children and hence been unable to work.....I think that entitles them to part of those retirement ill gotten gains. A social contract implicitly exists between individual and state. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Nov 2017 3.37pm) Surely that's through choice though?
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| Stirlingsays 03 Nov 17 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Surely that's through choice though? Without children we have no future....It's the only thing Whitney said that even made the slightest sense. A woman who has had two children or more and raised them well has done just as much or more for the country than some regular tax payer. A woman who raised them badly however....
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| Stuk Top half 03 Nov 17 7.51pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Without children we have no future....It's the only thing Whitney said that even made the slightest sense. A woman who has had two children or more and raised them well has done just as much or more for the country than some regular tax payer. A woman who raised them badly however....
George Benson said it first.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Nov 17 8.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
We'll probably end up with a 3rd set of "world records" rather than just having the one set of them. I do wonder why no women have been world champions in sports that aren't down to strength, power, stamina etc. Darts, snooker, motor sports etc have no rules on gender yet not one woman has ever even come close to it.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 03 Nov 17 8.18pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
There s a big debate among f1 fans about whether ladies should be able to race against men. Why shouldn't they? What's the problem with it? (Apart from F1 being as boring as hell.)
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| Stuk Top half 03 Nov 17 8.43pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No there isn't. They can, and have. They also do so in numerous other categories, but none come close to winning a world championship. I've never seen one win a race.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Nov 17 8.54pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
No there isn't. They can, and have. They also do so in numerous other categories, but none come close to winning a world championship. I've never seen one win a race. I'll have to ask my nephew. He's f1 mad. He was tweeting about it and getting a lot of responses.
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