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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 04 Jun 17 11.13am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

This is one of the best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I
have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not
long, it is easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email
is Dr Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist. A man,
whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of
large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true
Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of
German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who
just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back
and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had
lost control, and the end of the world had come.' My family lost everything.

I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.

'We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is
a religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live
in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely
irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff meant to make us feel better, and meant
to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in
the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment
in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any
one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.

'It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups
throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an
Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. 
It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who
zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It
is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

'The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent
majority,' is cowed and extraneous. 'Communist Russia was comprised of
Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were
responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority
were irrelevant.

'China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists
managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

'The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a 
warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across 
South East Asia in

Great post, thanks for sharing it.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Jun 17 11.15am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Whatever. Still true though. Not my problem if your brain can't process that. Suppose it would mean facing up to historical reality and you having to question and critique your own views and interpretations. . That's not going to happen, is it?

The Left and Right need to find common ground Kermit.
Arguing about who spilled the milk is beside the point at this stage.
We have a common enemy.

 

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davenotamonkey Flag 04 Jun 17 11.16am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8


Multi-culturalist policy over the last 50 years has mostly come from the right-wing of the political divide as they were/have been in power when the most relevant agreements to encouraging it were signed.

And why aren't you blaming the killers for the attacks? Your thought processes and reasoning are not those of a man with a rational mind. I see it took you all of a few minutes for you to start point-scoring after the attacks happened. You seem to revel in it. Salivating almost. Not sure what goes on in your head but something is not quite right.

Why are you more concerned at "my thought processes and reasoning", and not "what goes on" in the heads of those that drive white vans at pedestrians, alight and stab people to death screaming "This is for Allah"?

I mean, you didn't write it on this board, so that's your position entirely laid out, right? See, two can play that game, Kermit.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Jun 17 11.17am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I think we are way past passive policies. Direct action is now required. Zero tolerance for any sympathisers or conspirators.

Ok you are good at 'talking the talk'. What are your concrete and doable proposals following on from that? I have suggested complete proscription of extreme Wahhabism in the U.K. Treat it in the same way as any illegal hate-enterprise movement and with very severe repercussions for those breaking the law.

What can you add to that that isn't just skirting around the issue?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jun 17 11.20am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I think we are way past passive policies. Direct action is now required. Zero tolerance for any sympathisers or conspirators.

There are three million Muslims in the country.

At most there are probably around 300, 000 thousand of those with views that mean they don't integrate.

Of those maybe 20, 000 are a realistic problem.

Even if I thought internment was the answer.....and it's a debate point but I doubt it is....even if I went with it....We don't have spaces for 20, 000 people.

We would probably end up pushing more of the 300, 000 into the final nod towards becoming activity radical.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Jun 17 11.23am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The Left and Right need to find common ground Kermit.
Arguing about who spilled the milk is beside the point at this stage.
We have a common enemy.

I totally agree. The focus should be 100% on eradicating the problem. Others though seem to want to spend more time blaming pleasant left of centre Melissa and Mark from Islington for the actions of religious fvcktards who look to voices in a desert 5,000 miles away for inspiration.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Jun 17 11.23am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Great post, thanks for sharing it.

It's kind of a shame that this common sense even has to be said.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 04 Jun 17 11.24am

There isn't really much we can do. Years of mass immigration and multi-culturalism have led to this. The future is a sort of Northern Ireland style set up with various 'communities' increasingly confined to certain areas with ongoing outbreaks of violence.

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Ok you are good at 'talking the talk'. What are your concrete and doable proposals following on from that? I have suggested complete proscription of extreme Wahhabism in the U.K. Treat it in the same way as any illegal hate-enterprise movement and with very severe repercussions for those breaking the law.

What can you add to that that isn't just skirting around the issue?

I'm not an expert on counter terrorism Kermit. I can express a broad outline of what we need to do. I would leave the details to the experts. In fact I believe that politicians are also not qualified to make the best decisions.
The whole cancer of Islamic fundamentalism and extremism has to be routed out and exposed for what it is.
We cannot allow a small group of radicals to influence and be deliberately or inadvertently protected and supported by a section of society.

 

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davenotamonkey Flag 04 Jun 17 11.28am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

I totally agree. The focus should be 100% on eradicating the problem. Others though seem to want to spend more time blaming pleasant left of centre Melissa and Mark from Islington for the actions of religious fvcktards who look to voices in a desert 5,000 miles away for inspiration.

Melissa and Mark provided consent for parties that allowed those in that desert 5,000 miles away to set up here 0 miles away. They allowed and encouraged the import of incompatible culture. They were part of the problem. They still are.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There are three million Muslims in the country.

At most there are probably around 300, 000 thousand of those with views that mean they don't integrate.

Of those maybe 20, 000 are a realistic problem.

Even if I thought internment was the answer.....and it's a debate point but I doubt it is....even if I went with it....We don't have spaces for 20, 000 people.

We would probably end up pushing more of the 300, 000 into the final nod towards becoming activity radical.

I don't think we need to arrest twenty thousand people, but arresting those on the watch list and anyone caught spreading propaganda should be detained. Along with that we need people on the inside to monitor what is happening in the Muslim community. This might already be happening.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Jun 17 11.33am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Why are you more concerned at "my thought processes and reasoning", and not "what goes on" in the heads of those that drive white vans at pedestrians, alight and stab people to death screaming "This is for Allah"?

I mean, you didn't write it on this board, so that's your position entirely laid out, right? See, two can play that game, Kermit.

We already know what goes on in the heads of the killers. That's not the issue. "For Allah" gives us a bit of a clue. The issue is is how to stop it.

These perverts are the Eric Harris/Dylan Klebold of the extremist world.

 


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