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hedgehog50 Croydon 04 Jun 17 11.13am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
This is one of the best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I 'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories. 'We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is 'It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups 'The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent 'China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists 'The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a Great post, thanks for sharing it.
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jun 17 11.15am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Whatever. Still true though. Not my problem if your brain can't process that. Suppose it would mean facing up to historical reality and you having to question and critique your own views and interpretations. . That's not going to happen, is it? The Left and Right need to find common ground Kermit.
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davenotamonkey 04 Jun 17 11.16am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
And why aren't you blaming the killers for the attacks? Your thought processes and reasoning are not those of a man with a rational mind. I see it took you all of a few minutes for you to start point-scoring after the attacks happened. You seem to revel in it. Salivating almost. Not sure what goes on in your head but something is not quite right. Why are you more concerned at "my thought processes and reasoning", and not "what goes on" in the heads of those that drive white vans at pedestrians, alight and stab people to death screaming "This is for Allah"? I mean, you didn't write it on this board, so that's your position entirely laid out, right? See, two can play that game, Kermit.
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Kermit8 Hevon 04 Jun 17 11.17am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think we are way past passive policies. Direct action is now required. Zero tolerance for any sympathisers or conspirators. Ok you are good at 'talking the talk'. What are your concrete and doable proposals following on from that? I have suggested complete proscription of extreme Wahhabism in the U.K. Treat it in the same way as any illegal hate-enterprise movement and with very severe repercussions for those breaking the law. What can you add to that that isn't just skirting around the issue?
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Stirlingsays 04 Jun 17 11.20am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think we are way past passive policies. Direct action is now required. Zero tolerance for any sympathisers or conspirators. There are three million Muslims in the country. At most there are probably around 300, 000 thousand of those with views that mean they don't integrate. Of those maybe 20, 000 are a realistic problem. Even if I thought internment was the answer.....and it's a debate point but I doubt it is....even if I went with it....We don't have spaces for 20, 000 people. We would probably end up pushing more of the 300, 000 into the final nod towards becoming activity radical.
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Kermit8 Hevon 04 Jun 17 11.23am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The Left and Right need to find common ground Kermit. I totally agree. The focus should be 100% on eradicating the problem. Others though seem to want to spend more time blaming pleasant left of centre Melissa and Mark from Islington for the actions of religious fvcktards who look to voices in a desert 5,000 miles away for inspiration.
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Stirlingsays 04 Jun 17 11.23am | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Great post, thanks for sharing it. It's kind of a shame that this common sense even has to be said.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 04 Jun 17 11.24am | |
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There isn't really much we can do. Years of mass immigration and multi-culturalism have led to this. The future is a sort of Northern Ireland style set up with various 'communities' increasingly confined to certain areas with ongoing outbreaks of violence.
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jun 17 11.26am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Ok you are good at 'talking the talk'. What are your concrete and doable proposals following on from that? I have suggested complete proscription of extreme Wahhabism in the U.K. Treat it in the same way as any illegal hate-enterprise movement and with very severe repercussions for those breaking the law. What can you add to that that isn't just skirting around the issue? I'm not an expert on counter terrorism Kermit. I can express a broad outline of what we need to do. I would leave the details to the experts. In fact I believe that politicians are also not qualified to make the best decisions.
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davenotamonkey 04 Jun 17 11.28am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I totally agree. The focus should be 100% on eradicating the problem. Others though seem to want to spend more time blaming pleasant left of centre Melissa and Mark from Islington for the actions of religious fvcktards who look to voices in a desert 5,000 miles away for inspiration. Melissa and Mark provided consent for parties that allowed those in that desert 5,000 miles away to set up here 0 miles away. They allowed and encouraged the import of incompatible culture. They were part of the problem. They still are.
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jun 17 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There are three million Muslims in the country. At most there are probably around 300, 000 thousand of those with views that mean they don't integrate. Of those maybe 20, 000 are a realistic problem. Even if I thought internment was the answer.....and it's a debate point but I doubt it is....even if I went with it....We don't have spaces for 20, 000 people. We would probably end up pushing more of the 300, 000 into the final nod towards becoming activity radical. I don't think we need to arrest twenty thousand people, but arresting those on the watch list and anyone caught spreading propaganda should be detained. Along with that we need people on the inside to monitor what is happening in the Muslim community. This might already be happening.
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Kermit8 Hevon 04 Jun 17 11.33am | |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Why are you more concerned at "my thought processes and reasoning", and not "what goes on" in the heads of those that drive white vans at pedestrians, alight and stab people to death screaming "This is for Allah"? I mean, you didn't write it on this board, so that's your position entirely laid out, right? See, two can play that game, Kermit. We already know what goes on in the heads of the killers. That's not the issue. "For Allah" gives us a bit of a clue. The issue is is how to stop it. These perverts are the Eric Harris/Dylan Klebold of the extremist world.
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