It's been serious ever since our incredibly poor first half of the season.

After winning 5 from 7 concern is the lack of daylight between us and Hull and Swansea, the fact that Hull's manager has got them playing and our injury list.

If I was a bookie I'd have us a lot shorter to go down than the 5-1 we were when I looked this morning Big Sam or not. Going to be very uncomfortable I think.

Assuming Sakho won't be able to play against Liverpool.

I don't think someone who believes that the sun shines out of Mark Clattenburg's arse is in any position to discuss reality.

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The reality is that Mark is recognised throughout the world as one of the top referees evidenced by the fact that he has been awarded all the major finals. This is REALITY. !

it was written,....ever since Clattenberg announced his PL departure,....his last game would be at Old Trafford, to ensure our demise.

anything else is a positive

I disengage, I turn the page.

Don't want to wade into this, or the Clattenburg bashing, but it is wholly conceivable that an error from a referee could send us down.

Of course, Swansea or Hull would be justified to point towards the decision not to give a Penalty, or send Townsend off against Chelsea as being pivotal if the three points there lead to their demise.

As far as I am concerned, it is a poor state of affairs in an industry where the stakes are so high, that one man's mistake could be so pivotal.

One final point. The referee had nothing to do with our defeats against Swansea. If we go down then those points will be why. Four points from those and we would already be planning our summer signings.

Edited by dp (08 Apr 2017 10.58am)

It still amazes me that seasoned posters are still engaging with Willo/Trolley and fuelling his ego and giving oxygen to his WUM campaign.

Seriously lads... ignore him and he will go away to somewhere else where he can make mugs of other foolhardy people.

He is literally laughing at you.