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 johnfirewall  19 Oct 16 7.37pm |
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I meant in terms of both the Mail and these celebrities speaking with their own agenda in mind but you've supported my point with your ideas of who's distorting the truth. I gave Home Office figures, retreived from a right-leaning source, not sensationalist stories so I'm not really interested in propaganda from any side.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Oct 16 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
Is a wave supposed to indicate a large amount? How about tranche? Sorry, my figures were wrong Suppose it doesn't really matter if we bend the rules a bit if their relatives arrived via legal means but as these children are the only ones we're voluntarily taking then you have to question how the relatives preceded them. That would suggest the problem is being dealt with away from the UK. Those that came yesterday were all deemed to be under 18. I thought it was they you were referring too (unlike sections of the press who did allude that)
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| JohnyBoy 19 Oct 16 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by carlonoil
If we are bringing the press of the 1930s into this, we should also remember that after the announcement of the Hitler-Stalin Pact (after a few days of silence due to their shock and doubt as to how to justify it) the Daily Worker had a headline of "Soviet's Dramatic Peace Move To Halt Aggression". The article went on to call it a "master stroke of Soviet peace policy" and described the British government as "warmongers". You are correct Carlinoil and the daily Mirror also was supportive of Hitler back in the 1930s...but it was 'coincidentally' owned by Lord Rothermere at the time
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Oct 16 8.28pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Last wave? There were fourteen of them! Hardly a wave, but carry on using emotional semantically loaded words. Is there actual proof that three and half of them are over eighteen. From what I've heard on the radio today, the checks made in calais were pretty rigorous. Even if 25% (or 3 1/2) of the 14 are over 18, should they be denied being reunited with their families? Edited by nickgusset (19 Oct 2016 6.18pm) They all look older that spotty pre-pubescent kids that I know. Also where are all the girls? It appears to me that it is mainly men *Sorry that should be Boys*
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 20 Oct 16 9.41am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Last wave? There were fourteen of them! Hardly a wave, but carry on using emotional semantically loaded words. Is there actual proof that three and half of them are over eighteen. From what I've heard on the radio today, the checks made in calais were pretty rigorous. Even if 25% (or 3 1/2) of the 14 are over 18, should they be denied being reunited with their families? Yes, they should be reunited with their famalies. Send the rest of the family back to France.
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| Part Time James 20 Oct 16 10.25am |
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Originally posted by becky
Saw a comment on a website site today that suggested we only take persons up to 4' 6" tall - the odd Syrian dwarf may get through, but at least we could be pretty sure that the rest were children........ And, if they did turn out to be scoundrels at least they wouldn't be able to carry very big explosive devices.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Oct 16 11.06am |
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Originally posted by bubble wrap
Am sure these children will become adults very soon so they can claim benefits. Are you saying the rigorous checks carried out in calais were wrong? Who knows maybe some of them will start a business that employs lots of people or just hold down a job like the rest of us. Methinks you are just using lazy stereotyping to fit your blinkered view.
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 20 Oct 16 11.27am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Are you saying the rigorous checks carried out in calais were wrong? Who knows maybe some of them will start a business that employs lots of people or just hold down a job like the rest of us. Methinks you are just using lazy stereotyping to fit your blinkered view. Yes i am saying the rigorous checks were wrong as some of those that came in were not children. Are you saying its not possible for them to be wrong? They only have their word for it. Why not actually send the youngers one in where there was no doubt. Personally i dont want any more here regardles of age.Majority are a burden on our NHS and Welfare system to the detrement of British people. Lets look after our own first.
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| chris123 hove actually 20 Oct 16 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Are you saying the rigorous checks carried out in calais were wrong? Who knows maybe some of them will start a business that employs lots of people or just hold down a job like the rest of us. Methinks you are just using lazy stereotyping to fit your blinkered view. Are you saying that the checks carried out in Calais were rigorous?
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| Part Time James 20 Oct 16 12.12pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Are you saying that the checks carried out in Calais were rigorous? It went something like this: Crucifixion? Er, no, freedom actually. What? Yeah, they said I hadn't done anything and I could go and live on an island somewhere. Oh I say, that's very nice. Well, off you go then. No, I'm just pulling your leg, it's crucifixion really. Oh yes, very good. Well... Yes I know, out of the door, one cross each, line on the left.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Oct 16 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Are you saying that the checks carried out in Calais were rigorous? I'm saying that according to the four or five people who were involved in the cases, interviewed about the ages of the 14 children who came over on Wednesday, that the checks were rigourous.
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| Hoof Hearted 20 Oct 16 12.39pm | |
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The checks were rigorous? Oh the poor darlings... it must have been hell for them enduring such an ordeal! After all, before that they were either climbing razor/barbed wire fences, jumping in front of HGV vehicles and hanging off wheel-axles or climbing into dangerous freezer compartments as well as venturing into the channel tunnel itself in their attempts to get to the UK. Those of above age 18 in appearance are coached by British activists in Calais as to what to do to avoid capture and then returned home. Part of this coaching strategy is to lie about your age, not declare what country you are actually from, or exaggerate the situation that you face, ie death or torture. You mugs fall for it hook, line and sinker and can't get enough of them over here despite the fact that our infrastructure cannot cope with the hordes coming here illegally already, let alone legally. I'll bet the dental checks are no more rigorous than a 6 month check up at your dentist!
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