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Kermit8 Hevon 01 Apr 16 3.47pm
Originally posted by matt_himself . Edited by matt_himself (31 Mar 2016 3.24am) Alcohol or jetlag? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 01 Apr 16 3.47pm

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Alcohol or jetlag?

Big chest and massive boobs

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matt_himself Matataland 01 Apr 16 5.14pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Alcohol or jetlag? Whatever works for you. As we are told to understand, you are the oracle and know everything. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 01 Apr 16 5.14pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Alcohol or jetlag?

Whatever works for you. As we are told to understand, you are the oracle and know everything.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Stirlingsays 01 Apr 16 5.45pm
Originally posted by Stuk USA women's team allege wage discrimination as they're not paid the same as the men are. Popularity should decide pay, but nowadays they just want parity regardless. [Link] This call for pay equality irritates the hell out of me....especially the way most of the broadcast and educational outlets present it. Popularity should decide pay.....that's it....What's between your legs is immaterial. Male models aren't paid as highly as female ones and so on. You get paid based upon the value you represent. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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01 Apr 16 5.45pm

Originally posted by Stuk

USA women's team allege wage discrimination as they're not paid the same as the men are.

Popularity should decide pay, but nowadays they just want parity regardless.

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This call for pay equality irritates the hell out of me....especially the way most of the broadcast and educational outlets present it.

Popularity should decide pay.....that's it....What's between your legs is immaterial. Male models aren't paid as highly as female ones and so on.

You get paid based upon the value you represent.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 01 Apr 16 6.47pm
It's only a matter of time before we have 'Hug a Bender' day. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 01 Apr 16 6.47pm

It's only a matter of time before we have 'Hug a Bender' day.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 01 Apr 16 6.51pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Debate is fine, exploring ideas is fine but outside of being strict upon bullying and violence the state should tread very carefully on sociological programming. I'm a believer in encouraging positive interaction between people not dictating what views they should have. I think these are the important points - people's views in their formative years are likely to be consequences of their experience, and less about what they are told or taught. So as you say, encouraging positive experiences is vital. I'm curious, how do you go about doing that when you teach? One of the problems that Jamie alluded to earlier is the extent to which behavioural norms and values are applied to schools by the state regardless - via indirect tools like high stakes assessment which (generally) risk orient teaching to test-passing when there is much more to it than that. So social engineering, if you like, is taking place but it's largely a missed opportunity as usually it is those institutions with a rich (and therefore well-resourced) pedagogy and extra-curricular activities; or indidivuals with parents with parents (usually well off0 with the time and means to invest in children are those who have access to the kind of experiences important to success in later life. A one and a two...
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Inner Tantalus Time. 01 Apr 16 6.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Debate is fine, exploring ideas is fine but outside of being strict upon bullying and violence the state should tread very carefully on sociological programming.

I'm a believer in encouraging positive interaction between people not dictating what views they should have.

I think these are the important points - people's views in their formative years are likely to be consequences of their experience, and less about what they are told or taught. So as you say, encouraging positive experiences is vital. I'm curious, how do you go about doing that when you teach?

One of the problems that Jamie alluded to earlier is the extent to which behavioural norms and values are applied to schools by the state regardless - via indirect tools like high stakes assessment which (generally) risk orient teaching to test-passing when there is much more to it than that. So social engineering, if you like, is taking place but it's largely a missed opportunity as usually it is those institutions with a rich (and therefore well-resourced) pedagogy and extra-curricular activities; or indidivuals with parents with parents (usually well off0 with the time and means to invest in children are those who have access to the kind of experiences important to success in later life.

A one and a two...

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Stirlingsays 01 Apr 16 7.12pm
Originally posted by tome I think these are the important points - people's views in their formative years are likely to be consequences of their experience, and less about what they are told or taught. So as you say, encouraging positive experiences is vital. I'm curious, how do you go about doing that when you teach? One of the problems that Jamie alluded to earlier is the extent to which behavioural norms and values are applied to schools by the state regardless - via indirect tools like high stakes assessment which (generally) risk orient teaching to test-passing when there is much more to it than that. So social engineering, if you like, is taking place but it's largely a missed opportunity as usually it is those institutions with a rich (and therefore well-resourced) pedagogy and extra-curricular activities; or indidivuals with parents with parents (usually well off0 with the time and means to invest in children are those who have access to the kind of experiences important to success in later life. True and salient points. I'm not against soft focus ethics within the ethos of school systems but I'm frequently irritated by the clumsy and ideologically biased way it's frequently implemented. While I teach IT and computer science In terms of encouraging positive interactions between students It's in the equal treatment and fairness in working with them, independent upon your judgement of them. It's in the discouragement of irrationality and pettiness while encouraging calm, independent, rational and creative thought....important for disciplines like programming for example. It's in the encouragement on teamwork and general tolerance for difference. It's by providing the best model you can be of a reasoned individual. It isn't always going to work with everyone, especially in the secondary system and the effect is muted by the very nature of the school timetable and focus upon results. Still, there is great example offered up by many a teacher though as we know teachers take very minor roles compared to the example children take from their parents. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Apr 2016 8.16pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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01 Apr 16 7.12pm

Originally posted by tome

True and salient points.

I'm not against soft focus ethics within the ethos of school systems but I'm frequently irritated by the clumsy and ideologically biased way it's frequently implemented.

While I teach IT and computer science In terms of encouraging positive interactions between students It's in the equal treatment and fairness in working with them, independent upon your judgement of them. It's in the discouragement of irrationality and pettiness while encouraging calm, independent, rational and creative thought....important for disciplines like programming for example. It's in the encouragement on teamwork and general tolerance for difference.

It's by providing the best model you can be of a reasoned individual.

It isn't always going to work with everyone, especially in the secondary system and the effect is muted by the very nature of the school timetable and focus upon results.

Still, there is great example offered up by many a teacher though as we know teachers take very minor roles compared to the example children take from their parents.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Apr 2016 8.16pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Apr 16 5.06pm
I've always admired teachers ability to avoid murdering their students. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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I've always admired teachers ability to avoid murdering their students.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Apr 16 10.26pm
Roonsterrocker would be proud! As you, my fans, know I’m scheduled to play in Greensboro, North Carolina this Sunday. As we also know, North Carolina has just passed HB2, which the media are referring to as the “bathroom” law. HB2 — known officially as the Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act — dictates which bathrooms transgender people are permitted to use. Just as important, the law also attacks the rights of LGBT citizens to sue when their human rights are violated in the workplace. No other group of North Carolinians faces such a burden. To my mind, it’s an attempt by people who cannot stand the progress our country has made in recognizing the human rights of all of our citizens to overturn that progress. Right now, there are many groups, businesses, and individuals in North Carolina working to oppose and overcome these negative developments. Taking all of this into account, I feel that this is a time for me and the band to show solidarity for those freedom fighters. As a result, and with deepest apologies to our dedicated fans in Greensboro, we have canceled our show scheduled for Sunday, April 10th. Some things are more important than a rock show and this fight against prejudice and bigotry — which is happening as I write — is one of them. It is the strongest means I have for raising my voice in opposition to those who continue to push us backwards instead of forwards. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band’s Sunday April 10th show is canceled. Tickets will be refunded at point of purchase. brucespringsteen.net
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Shizzlehurst 08 Apr 16 10.26pm

Roonsterrocker would be proud!

As you, my fans, know I’m scheduled to play in Greensboro, North Carolina this Sunday. As we also know, North Carolina has just passed HB2, which the media are referring to as the “bathroom” law. HB2 — known officially as the Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act — dictates which bathrooms transgender people are permitted to use. Just as important, the law also attacks the rights of LGBT citizens to sue when their human rights are violated in the workplace. No other group of North Carolinians faces such a burden. To my mind, it’s an attempt by people who cannot stand the progress our country has made in recognizing the human rights of all of our citizens to overturn that progress. Right now, there are many groups, businesses, and individuals in North Carolina working to oppose and overcome these negative developments. Taking all of this into account, I feel that this is a time for me and the band to show solidarity for those freedom fighters. As a result, and with deepest apologies to our dedicated fans in Greensboro, we have canceled our show scheduled for Sunday, April 10th. Some things are more important than a rock show and this fight against prejudice and bigotry — which is happening as I write — is one of them. It is the strongest means I have for raising my voice in opposition to those who continue to push us backwards instead of forwards.
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band’s Sunday April 10th show is canceled. Tickets will be refunded at point of purchase.
brucespringsteen.net

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Stirlingsays 08 Apr 16 11.23pm
Bruce Springclean 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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johnfirewall 14 Jun 16 3.12pm
UK state schools get gender-neutral uniforms [Link] I think that's quite nice but what bothers me is this: "It’s less of a big deal to the students than you might think" No, because kids while judgemental haven't grown in to condescending cnuts who make assumptions on what other people should think. Edited by johnfirewall (14 Jun 2016 3.12pm)
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UK state schools get gender-neutral uniforms

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I think that's quite nice but what bothers me is this:

"It’s less of a big deal to the students than you might think"

No, because kids while judgemental haven't grown in to condescending cnuts who make assumptions on what other people should think.

Edited by johnfirewall (14 Jun 2016 3.12pm)

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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jun 16 4.27pm
Originally posted by johnfirewall UK state schools get gender-neutral uniforms [Link] I think that's quite nice but what bothers me is this: "It’s less of a big deal to the students than you might think" No, because kids while judgemental haven't grown in to condescending cnuts who make assumptions on what other people should think. Edited by johnfirewall (14 Jun 2016 3.12pm) I have mixed feelings on this. I have long thought that girls should be allowed to wear trousers at school and for balance, boys should be allowed to wear skirts. In practice, the latter could spell bullying on a daily basis but that is another story. That said, I'm not for pandering to minorities to the detriment of the majority. Some might argue that that could be the case here. Personally, I can't see a problem with just allowing a choice as long as it is restricted to uniform. I've never been a big fan of uniform in general. I would have one concern in that I would not want vulnerable, easily influenced kids to be persuaded that they were gay or trans by those eager to welcome them to their club(so to speak)when they are just a bit confused.
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Originally posted by johnfirewall

UK state schools get gender-neutral uniforms

[Link]

I think that's quite nice but what bothers me is this:

"It’s less of a big deal to the students than you might think"

No, because kids while judgemental haven't grown in to condescending cnuts who make assumptions on what other people should think.

Edited by johnfirewall (14 Jun 2016 3.12pm)

I have mixed feelings on this.

I have long thought that girls should be allowed to wear trousers at school and for balance, boys should be allowed to wear skirts. In practice, the latter could spell bullying on a daily basis but that is another story.

That said, I'm not for pandering to minorities to the detriment of the majority. Some might argue that that could be the case here.

Personally, I can't see a problem with just allowing a choice as long as it is restricted to uniform. I've never been a big fan of uniform in general.

I would have one concern in that I would not want vulnerable, easily influenced kids to be persuaded that they were gay or trans by those eager to welcome them to their club(so to speak)when they are just a bit confused.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Jun 16 9.53am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I have mixed feelings on this. I have long thought that girls should be allowed to wear trousers at school and for balance, boys should be allowed to wear skirts. In practice, the latter could spell bullying on a daily basis but that is another story. That said, I'm not for pandering to minorities to the detriment of the majority. Some might argue that that could be the case here. Personally, I can't see a problem with just allowing a choice as long as it is restricted to uniform. I've never been a big fan of uniform in general. I would have one concern in that I would not want vulnerable, easily influenced kids to be persuaded that they were gay or trans by those eager to welcome them to their club(so to speak)when they are just a bit confused. In my memory of school, reasons were justifications for bullying, more than the cause. A valid point, but equally as applicable to heterosexuality. How many gay people are easily influenced towards trying to be straight when they aren't. A lot of people take advantage of other people in their teens, to 'get some', whether its the emotionally insecurity that makes someone 'the sp*nk bucket/sperm whale' and so on. We probably like to think we don't, but that's just kind of life. Were all a bit manipulative in our relationships with others, especially where sex is involved. Thing is, I think people have to find their own way, and be free to experiment, and see what floats their boat. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 16 Jun 16 9.53am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I have mixed feelings on this.

I have long thought that girls should be allowed to wear trousers at school and for balance, boys should be allowed to wear skirts. In practice, the latter could spell bullying on a daily basis but that is another story.
That said, I'm not for pandering to minorities to the detriment of the majority. Some might argue that that could be the case here.

Personally, I can't see a problem with just allowing a choice as long as it is restricted to uniform. I've never been a big fan of uniform in general.

In my memory of school, reasons were justifications for bullying, more than the cause.

A valid point, but equally as applicable to heterosexuality. How many gay people are easily influenced towards trying to be straight when they aren't. A lot of people take advantage of other people in their teens, to 'get some', whether its the emotionally insecurity that makes someone 'the sp*nk bucket/sperm whale' and so on. We probably like to think we don't, but that's just kind of life. Were all a bit manipulative in our relationships with others, especially where sex is involved.

Thing is, I think people have to find their own way, and be free to experiment, and see what floats their boat.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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