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jamiemartin721  Reading 06 Mar 15 9.34am |
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Quote reborn at 06 Mar 2015 9.12am
Quote sprites at 05 Mar 2015 9.25pm
Guess we'll all find out one day soon, right?
See as someone who does believe in Heaven, I rationalise that if its not true and there really is nothing, well then I wont know will I? Well you might if the competition turns out to be right, I'd imagine that embracing the 'truth of a loving and compassionate christ' won't be much help if you end up in Valhalla. That's my fear to, not that Hell might be real, but that I end up in Valhalla. Being killed in battle every day sounds pretty grim.
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ParchmoreEagle  Belair 08 Mar 15 11.30pm |
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Quote ParchmoreEagle at 08 Mar 2015 11.30pm
The mountains are calling & I must go. |
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Mar 15 10.03am |
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Quote Ouzo Dan at 09 Mar 2015 9.05am
Quote ParchmoreEagle at 08 Mar 2015 11.30pm
Well he is two faced....
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Mar 15 10.11am |
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Quote ParchmoreEagle at 08 Mar 2015 11.30pm
Good and merciful god condemns people to eternal torture and punishment in tyrannical strop about not worshiping him and his son. Feel free to worship tyranny and oppression. I'll stick with not endorsing the oppression and tyranny of people, and the possibility of a diety that is the embodiment of the noble aspects of humanity, such as love and compassion, rather than a stroppy psychopath.
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| Moose In the sewer pipe... 09 Mar 15 10.58am |
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Quote ParchmoreEagle at 08 Mar 2015 11.30pm
I had a heart attack a few years back in which I died and was brought back in the ambulance with the defibrillator. I can tell you that, in the intervening time, there was nothing whatsoever. No white lights, no tunnels, no angels singing, no Pearly Gates. Ever had a general anaesthetic? That's what it was like. So one nutjob telling the world he went to hell and was sent back does not proof - or even reliable evidence - make.
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| reborn 09 Mar 15 5.28pm |
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Quote Moose at 09 Mar 2015 10.58am
Quote ParchmoreEagle at 08 Mar 2015 11.30pm
I had a heart attack a few years back in which I died and was brought back in the ambulance with the defibrillator. I can tell you that, in the intervening time, there was nothing whatsoever. No white lights, no tunnels, no angels singing, no Pearly Gates. Ever had a general anaesthetic? That's what it was like. So one nutjob telling the world he went to hell and was sent back does not proof - or even reliable evidence - make.
I'll use me as an example, after all I am the only one I can speak for, and I am often called to speak of my experiences, most recently in front of thousands of people. I believe 100% that I know Jesus having encountered him, firstly in a vision and then a spiritual epiphany that continues to this day. I know that makes me sound like a crackpot to anyone who doesn't believe LOL, but there you are. I know what I know, I just lack the ability to convey it accurately to others. It's that simple.
My username has nothing to do with my religious beliefs |
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sitdownstandup  09 Mar 15 7.35pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 09 Mar 2015 10.11am
Quote ParchmoreEagle at 08 Mar 2015 11.30pm
Good and merciful god condemns people to eternal torture and punishment in tyrannical strop about not worshiping him and his son. Feel free to worship tyranny and oppression. I'll stick with not endorsing the oppression and tyranny of people, and the possibility of a diety that is the embodiment of the noble aspects of humanity, such as love and compassion, rather than a stroppy psychopath. This raises a similar point to one that jehovah's witnesses raise. How can anyone truly trust or feel comfortable worshipping a god whom they know will send billions upon billions of people to an eternity of suffering? Surly they must understand that their god may turn around and condemn them one day. If fundamentalist muslims are right then fundamentalist christians will be disappointed and vice versa.
Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping. Hubert Reeves |
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| Hoof Hearted 10 Mar 15 10.18am | |
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Quote reborn at 09 Mar 2015 5.28pm
Quote Moose at 09 Mar 2015 10.58am
Quote ParchmoreEagle at 08 Mar 2015 11.30pm
I had a heart attack a few years back in which I died and was brought back in the ambulance with the defibrillator. I can tell you that, in the intervening time, there was nothing whatsoever. No white lights, no tunnels, no angels singing, no Pearly Gates. Ever had a general anaesthetic? That's what it was like. So one nutjob telling the world he went to hell and was sent back does not proof - or even reliable evidence - make.
I'll use me as an example, after all I am the only one I can speak for, and I am often called to speak of my experiences, most recently in front of thousands of people. I believe 100% that I know Jesus having encountered him, firstly in a vision and then a spiritual epiphany that continues to this day. I know that makes me sound like a crackpot to anyone who doesn't believe LOL, but there you are. I know what I know, I just lack the ability to convey it accurately to others. It's that simple.
I woke up eventually though.
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| reborn 10 Mar 15 1.30pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 10 Mar 2015 10.18am
Quote reborn at 09 Mar 2015 5.28pm
Quote Moose at 09 Mar 2015 10.58am
Quote ParchmoreEagle at 08 Mar 2015 11.30pm
I had a heart attack a few years back in which I died and was brought back in the ambulance with the defibrillator. I can tell you that, in the intervening time, there was nothing whatsoever. No white lights, no tunnels, no angels singing, no Pearly Gates. Ever had a general anaesthetic? That's what it was like. So one nutjob telling the world he went to hell and was sent back does not proof - or even reliable evidence - make.
I'll use me as an example, after all I am the only one I can speak for, and I am often called to speak of my experiences, most recently in front of thousands of people. I believe 100% that I know Jesus having encountered him, firstly in a vision and then a spiritual epiphany that continues to this day. I know that makes me sound like a crackpot to anyone who doesn't believe LOL, but there you are. I know what I know, I just lack the ability to convey it accurately to others. It's that simple.
I woke up eventually though. Wow, as ever a very mature and respectful response. Now where do I sign up to be an atheist?
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| Hoof Hearted 10 Mar 15 3.06pm | |
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Quote reborn at 10 Mar 2015 1.30pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 10 Mar 2015 10.18am
Quote reborn at 09 Mar 2015 5.28pm
Quote Moose at 09 Mar 2015 10.58am
Quote ParchmoreEagle at 08 Mar 2015 11.30pm
I had a heart attack a few years back in which I died and was brought back in the ambulance with the defibrillator. I can tell you that, in the intervening time, there was nothing whatsoever. No white lights, no tunnels, no angels singing, no Pearly Gates. Ever had a general anaesthetic? That's what it was like. So one nutjob telling the world he went to hell and was sent back does not proof - or even reliable evidence - make.
I'll use me as an example, after all I am the only one I can speak for, and I am often called to speak of my experiences, most recently in front of thousands of people. I believe 100% that I know Jesus having encountered him, firstly in a vision and then a spiritual epiphany that continues to this day. I know that makes me sound like a crackpot to anyone who doesn't believe LOL, but there you are. I know what I know, I just lack the ability to convey it accurately to others. It's that simple.
I woke up eventually though. Wow, as ever a very mature and respectful response. Now where do I sign up to be an atheist?
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| Catfish Burgess Hill 10 Mar 15 3.15pm |
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Reborn - why do your views (and those of other religious believers) deserve or demand respect? Do your political views deserve equally unquestioned respect? If I said that I devoutly and sincerely believed that trees and ponds contained nature gods would you patiently acknowledge my spritual journey or would you dismiss it as baloney?
Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial |
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